eb in oregon
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If there's a closed window between me and the knife I'm just going to drive away
And that's your right. Some people would rather scare the daylights out of a thug and possibly let him/her ponder their future.
If there's a closed window between me and the knife I'm just going to drive away
And that's your right. Some people would rather scare the daylights out of a thug and possibly let him/her ponder their future.
Every time something like this comes up I ask myself "How would I justify my actions to the District Attorney?"
I guess I'd have to ask myself if a reasonable man would feel that he was in imminent danger of losing his life or suffering grievous bodily harm from a guy who is on the other side of a closed window and a locked door and waving a knife around especially when that reasonable man has the ability to remove himself form the situation.
Once a trial begins, the DA will not care about your explanation. If you takes the stand, you will be answering questions in direct and cross examination, and the jury, or the judge in the case of a bench trial, will consider your responses along with other evidence.Every time something like this comes up I ask myself "How would I justify my actions to the District Attorney?"
And whether he would have a basis for believing that the display or use of a weapon had been immediately necessary.I guess I'd have to ask myself if a reasonable man would feel that he was in imminent danger of losing his life or suffering grievous bodily harm from a guy who is on the other side of a closed window and a locked door and waving a knife around...
Once a trial begins, the DA will not care about your explanation. If you takes the stand, you will be answering questions in direct and cross examination, and the jury, or the judge in the case of a bench trial, will consider your responses along with other evidence.
And whether he would have a basis for believing that the display or use of a weapon had been immediately necessary.
No--just expanding on it.I think you're kind of missing my point there bro.
I think you're kind of missing my point there bro.
If I don't pull a gun on somebody who's waving a knife at me from the other side of a locked door and closed window, if I instead simply drive away, I won't have to worry about justifying it to the cops or the prosecuting attorney or the DA.
IOW drawing on somebody who isn't really a threat for the sole purpose of "scaring the pants off them" is a really stupid thing to do
Courtroom balderdash be damned.
When a person displays a firearm to a thug attempting to rob or maim them with a weapon that is perfectly legal.
"The prosecution, with their unlimited resources, would would bring in expert witnesses who would, of course, fail to break in, and the defense would have to have their high-cost witnesses demonstrate otherwise."
If the only witnesses would be the guy with the knife and the two people in the car, who are the more credible witnesses? Courtroom balderdash be damned. Playing mind games with oneself is not always conducive to rational and logical thought. And yet no one has been shot. Simply been caused to soil their pants.
The prosecution, with their unlimited resources, would would bring in expert witnesses who would, of course, fail to break in, and the defense would have to have their high-cost witnesses demonstrate otherwise.
I mean, I'm sorry dude but (assuming this whole story even ever happened) pointing a gun at somebody who isn't really a threat to you just to "scare the pants off them" is a really bad idea.
It's a crime in most jurisdictions and you're just setting yourself up for a bunch of unnecessary hassles.
You do you Boo
Assault, in the common law definition, and aggravated assault today when a gun is involved. What used to be classified as attempted murder is classified as aggravated murder in most jurisdictions today.It's a crime in most jurisdictions
Nope.No one has been shot, does that ring a bell? It should.
No one has been shot, does that ring a bell? It should.
Wow, simply wow.All we need to further erode our rights is for random bystanders to capture video of people holding guns up to their side windows before zooming away into the distance. The other reality is that in a well-coordinated actual carjacking attempt…it is the VEHICLE itself that is easily the most formidable weapon in the quiver.
And I'm not sure what planet you're from but displaying a firearm to a person threatening you with a knife is perfectly legal in Oregon.
No one has been shot, does that ring a bell? It should.
Unnecessarily waving a gun around will get the gun waver noticed. People will call 9-1-1 to report it."…Wow, simply wow…"
That's not really the same thing is it? Can the animal open the door? Can it bash the window and break it? Bad analogy.
And that's your right. Some people would rather scare the daylights out of a thug and possibly let him/her ponder their future.
Are you? Because what you described borders on felony menacing. But then I'm only familiar with the laws here in Colorado.I'm sorry , I didn't realize you were a lawyer licensed in the state of Oregon and that you are familiar with that states laws.
If you were actually interested in debate or discussing the event with anything other than I'm right and everyone else is wrong then maybe you'd have a point. But several members have tried to explain their position only to be met with argumentative shouting.It seems "The High Road" is going the way of Fakebook, don't debate and exchange different opinions, attack others because you can. Which seems to include the opinions of moderators.