Hokkmike
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Buy it. Buy it. Buy it.
Carl Gustav M38 Carbine 6.5x55 swede - School me on these rifles
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I got it! Another caliber to reload for so at the moment I only have 4 rounds for it.
Kachok
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Buy some Prvi 139gr SP, what they charge for ammo the brass is easily worth that. I have Prvi 6.5x55 brass that I have been using for YEARS and it is still flawless except it won't hold a shine anymore. My best groups have all been with neck sized PPU brass. I have been reloading the Sweed for years if you need any help working a load up.
meanmrmustard
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This.
...and it's available. I've socked away several hundred rounds, just PPU, in the last few weeks as money allows. This way, I have ammo AND brass once its fired. I'm getting it at about $.75 a round at sgammo.com buying it in bulk.
FYI, the 139 gr. is accurate to boot.
Lets see some more pictures..................
JT-AR-MG42
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The thread title got me.
That is a very good price on the short rifle. I've owned several over the years and all were great shooters, although like mentioned, they did impact a tad! high.
It is not a Swedish carbine though.
JT
That is a very good price on the short rifle. I've owned several over the years and all were great shooters, although like mentioned, they did impact a tad! high.
It is not a Swedish carbine though.
JT
Racinfan83
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That Privi 6.5x55 ammo is one of the few things I have been able to find at Cabelas here. Got some already and gonna get more next time I'm in there...
meanmrmustard
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meanmrmustard
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Leave me some!
Also, if you're ever near Warrenton, H and H Guns keeps a good pile of it. I'm pretty much the only one who hits it up.
Buck a round.
Racinfan83
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I'm about 20 mi East of Warrenton. I think the stuff I got at Cabelas was $1 a round as well - and that is kinda on my way home from work...
This is correct, that would be the m/94, with a barrel length of 17 & 3/4 inches & a entire rifle length right at 3 ft................
http://www.midwayusa.com/
Has all kinds of 6.5x55 Swede................
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cal30_sniper
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Entire rifle length under 24"? Perhaps for just the receiver and action out of the stock, but the entire m94 carbine is much longer than 24".
Float Pilot
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The comparative lengths of the
m/94 carbine with a 450mm (17.7in) barrel,
m/38 short rifle with a 23.5 inch barrel
and m/96 rifle with a 29 inch barrel.
m/94 carbine with a 450mm (17.7in) barrel,
m/38 short rifle with a 23.5 inch barrel
and m/96 rifle with a 29 inch barrel.
Yeah, your right that was supposed to be right at 3 ft. not 2 ft....................
Karbin m/94, K m/94
Calibre 6,5×55
Ammunition 6,5 mm m/94
V0 655 m/s (ammo m/94)
730 m/s (ammo m/41)
Feed 5-round integral, double row magazine
Design Mauser, model 1893
Action Bolt action
Manufacturer Mauser
GF
Year of delivery 1895-1918
Quantity Mauser ≈10 000
GF ≈11 5000
Barrel 449 mm, 4 grooves
Length 950 mm
Weight 3,4 kg
Sights 200-1600 m
Miscellaneous Same action as G m/38
Similar action to G m/96.
Status Obsolete
Some converted to Gevär 6 and Gevär 7
kBob
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Nice rifle and good info from the responders.
I have a friend that does something I think a bit scary. He buys wood bulleted swede blanks, pulls the wood bullet discards the powder tumbles the cases and assembles mid range loads on the primed blank cases with commercial jacketed bullets. I have been a bit concerned for his safety, but he has been doing it for a couple of years.
Comments?
I would also like to know more about the FMJ plastic wad cutter type training ammo. What ranges did the swedes use it at and what accuracy was expected? What sight settings were used at those ranges?
Another friend tried to shoot some of the training ammo at 50 meters and could not tell where it was hitting. I suggested that the bullet is so light it might not be accurate more than ten or fifteen meters before becoming unstable and going where ever it wanted (this in marked difference than the traditional bullet shaped plastic core FMJ 7.62x39 ammo that seems to stay stabilized well past 100 meters)
One final query, didn't Sarco and or Century offer a .308 barreled 96 or 38 action, drilled and tapped for scope ( and I believe with a mount and cheap scope) in a plastic sporter stock for a while? Anyone had any experience with those? I came real close on one (who ever made them up) for a truck gun but held out for an FR8 I never got.
No really this is my last question......anyone have any luck making up squib loads with say Unique and a hard cast GC or FB bullet for the 38's?
-kBob
I have a friend that does something I think a bit scary. He buys wood bulleted swede blanks, pulls the wood bullet discards the powder tumbles the cases and assembles mid range loads on the primed blank cases with commercial jacketed bullets. I have been a bit concerned for his safety, but he has been doing it for a couple of years.
Comments?
I would also like to know more about the FMJ plastic wad cutter type training ammo. What ranges did the swedes use it at and what accuracy was expected? What sight settings were used at those ranges?
Another friend tried to shoot some of the training ammo at 50 meters and could not tell where it was hitting. I suggested that the bullet is so light it might not be accurate more than ten or fifteen meters before becoming unstable and going where ever it wanted (this in marked difference than the traditional bullet shaped plastic core FMJ 7.62x39 ammo that seems to stay stabilized well past 100 meters)
One final query, didn't Sarco and or Century offer a .308 barreled 96 or 38 action, drilled and tapped for scope ( and I believe with a mount and cheap scope) in a plastic sporter stock for a while? Anyone had any experience with those? I came real close on one (who ever made them up) for a truck gun but held out for an FR8 I never got.
No really this is my last question......anyone have any luck making up squib loads with say Unique and a hard cast GC or FB bullet for the 38's?
-kBob
kBob
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racinfan,
Forgot to say, good job on that stock! I really like your rifle and would consider it a decent "classic" conversion rather than a bubba gun. I really like the aperature rear sight and the blued cocking piece.
-kBob
Forgot to say, good job on that stock! I really like your rifle and would consider it a decent "classic" conversion rather than a bubba gun. I really like the aperature rear sight and the blued cocking piece.
-kBob
Float Pilot
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The Swedes made various types of light bullet short range training ammo.
A lot of them were civilian deals that could be used on restricted distance ranges.
But the Swede military had some called m/44 ammo, which supposedly was accurate for 57-100 yards from a m/96 rifle.
There was also a special short gallery type round for the KAMMARKARBINER.
It was a training carbine with a special slow twist barrel and a black stained stock.
I think the special school carbines also used ammo like this.
This ammo has a 9.3 grain m/12 bullet with a muzzle velocity of around 1600 fps. It was made for shooting at 15 meters into some sort of bullet trap. they actually reused the bullets.
They later made other versions for use at 30 meters for troop training, while using tiny targets.
A lot of them were civilian deals that could be used on restricted distance ranges.
But the Swede military had some called m/44 ammo, which supposedly was accurate for 57-100 yards from a m/96 rifle.
There was also a special short gallery type round for the KAMMARKARBINER.
It was a training carbine with a special slow twist barrel and a black stained stock.
I think the special school carbines also used ammo like this.
This ammo has a 9.3 grain m/12 bullet with a muzzle velocity of around 1600 fps. It was made for shooting at 15 meters into some sort of bullet trap. they actually reused the bullets.
They later made other versions for use at 30 meters for troop training, while using tiny targets.
kBob
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Float Pilot:
30 meter subtense targets.....shades of Appleseed. Neat.
Got to wonder if that light weight stuff in a normal tight twist barrel is heating up enough to liquefy the plastic part of the bullet.....hmm...
Re your sig/tag line: The only fixed wing I have ever, however briefly, been in control of was atail dragger, a Luscombe 85E. Also a shooting friend used to fly into our little range at the public airport in my little home town and used to land a Luscombe 65 right behind the firing line. He was big on the old Merrill Single shot pistols and his iron sighted .30-30 Merrill was my first shot with a rifle caliber handgun. That is the only plane whose prop I ever flipped......I like having the E after the number a lot better....... The kids that ususally flew the Luscombe 85E used to keep an actual Armalite AR7 behind the seats on occasion. Their Dad preferred a couple of folding lawn chairs as when weather came up out of the gulf quickly he on occasion would land on some two lane road and sit out the storm in a chair under one wing. The chairs were much more useful in reality.
-kBob
30 meter subtense targets.....shades of Appleseed. Neat.
Got to wonder if that light weight stuff in a normal tight twist barrel is heating up enough to liquefy the plastic part of the bullet.....hmm...
Re your sig/tag line: The only fixed wing I have ever, however briefly, been in control of was atail dragger, a Luscombe 85E. Also a shooting friend used to fly into our little range at the public airport in my little home town and used to land a Luscombe 65 right behind the firing line. He was big on the old Merrill Single shot pistols and his iron sighted .30-30 Merrill was my first shot with a rifle caliber handgun. That is the only plane whose prop I ever flipped......I like having the E after the number a lot better....... The kids that ususally flew the Luscombe 85E used to keep an actual Armalite AR7 behind the seats on occasion. Their Dad preferred a couple of folding lawn chairs as when weather came up out of the gulf quickly he on occasion would land on some two lane road and sit out the storm in a chair under one wing. The chairs were much more useful in reality.
-kBob
Float Pilot
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BTW.. Some erasers that come with mechanical pencils are about 6.5mm.
I loaded up a few and used primers-only as indoors loads.
It works at 25 feet, but I am not so sure how good the erasers are for the bore.
I drilled out the flash holes on the brass so the primers stay put.
I loaded up a few and used primers-only as indoors loads.
It works at 25 feet, but I am not so sure how good the erasers are for the bore.
I drilled out the flash holes on the brass so the primers stay put.
Float Pilot
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As I am sure you have figured out, Interarms ground off the date and re-stamped the made-up model number 33/50 back when they were importing M-94 carbines with a one inch barrel extension. They are a good basis for a sporterizing job since the collectors value flies out the window. Yours has various parts from other rifles.
The receiver was inspected by Germund Ragnar Adolf HERMANSSON LINDGREN he was an inspector at the CG factory from 1907 to 1909. That carbine was made in late 1907.
Float Pilot
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The original poster never said anything about a carbine. Another brother here posted photos of his sporterized carbine and somehow things became mixed up...
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