Carry in Banks?

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  1. Thernlund

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    I occasionally wonder... what is this mystical conflict guns have with money. It's like two magnets repulsing each other. The greater the amount of money, the greater the degree or repulsion.

    OTOH, a person carrying money (armored car driver, business owner, ect.) will be attracted to a gun. The greater the amount of money, the greater the attraction.

    So... like the institution and the gun are the negative pole, and the individual is the positive pole.

    Or something. :confused:

    Strange universe it is.

    :D


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    Yeah, but come on. This is Arizona. Guns are mostly a non-issue here. Unlike some other states, carrying is the rule, not the exception. ;)
     
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  2. jdorian

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    Totally legal if you have CPL in Michigan, otherwise its not legal. However, if one is discrete, and moving unloaded weapons in a briefcase, purse, or other bag from one's car to safe deposit box, I do not forsee anybody really making a big deal out of it, even though its not legal without a CPL. Some of us do have extra handguns that we don't need lying around the house all the time, like my .22 pistol that I only use a few times a year and a few other guns that are kept for sentimental reasons.
     
  3. Gentleman Ranker

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    I looked this up some years ago, and there's a Federal law alright ... against using a firearm to ROB a bank. There's no Federal law against simply carrying a firearm in a bank.

    So as long as you don't use your otherwise-legal firearm to rob the bank, you're good as far as Federal law goes. I can see why someone might make this mistake though.

    I don't have the citation to hand, but would be happy to find it if anyone would like.

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    GR
     
  4. Thernlund

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    There's a law against that?! The heck you say!

    :neener:


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  5. JesseL

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    Dang. Every time I think I've got my plans for the weekend all worked out, somebody comes along and tells me that I'd be violating federal law.
     
  6. brickeyee

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    This is the Virginia State law about guns and banks.
    Many places have similar laws.
    If you are not there to 'commit larceny" carry is perfectly legal subject to the bans policies.

    Code of Virginia
     
  7. RNB65

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    Please note that the statute clearly states that this law apples to both the daytime AND the nighttime. Just in case there was any question... :rolleyes:

    Got to love the idiots that write legalese...
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  8. Thernlund

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    "NOTICE: Cape does not enable wearer to fly."

    Hahaha.

    Some things just have to be said, eh?

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  9. Robby

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    I had a Bank Manager, (who is my cousin) say that his bank had a sign saying no carry in the bank, (in KY). I was in his office when he told me. When I left I checked for the sign, he said was there. It sure was, however, it quoted the Ohio Revised Statute code #. I think his security people screwed up, don't you!
    Of course, I had a gun on me in his office, but when he became sure they were posted to not have guns there, I did not tell him. Nor did I go back and tell his their sign had no effect as it was using the wrong State.
     
  10. teknoid

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    They'd have to quote Ohio, since banks aren't off limits in KY. I've seen a couple that seem to believe it's against federal law (it isn't), but I don't bank there.
     
  11. btg3

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    Anyone ever worked for a bank or see a policy manual? I've seen one that instructs teller to do whatever the robber demands. Why?... I assume the bank is insured and it's the safe thing to do, as opposed to putting employees and customers at risk??? If so, this might explain why my credit union posted NO WEAPONS signs several weeks ago. They just don't want any gun play.

    Sort of makes sense. It's not like a BG goes to a bank for assault. He wants money. And if he gets what he wants, it's likely that escalation can be avoided. If a wannabe hero pulls out a concealed weapon... well sometimes they ARE a hero, but it's not a wise gamble.
     
  12. JesseL

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    The trouble is that even if the bank robber herds everybody into the back and executes them, the bank probably won't share any liability for creating a defenseless victim zone.

    This is why I'd like to see a law or court precedent that:
    1. Establishes a legal duty for business owners to protect their customers from criminal assault if they disallow their customers from having their legally carried arms on the premises; And
    2. Provides immunity from liability for the actions of their legally armed customers.
     
  13. TAB

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    If the police don't have to protect you, why should a biz owner?
     
  14. tntwatt

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    I open carried vs my normal concealed at my bank one day. The head of accounts saw me and tried to discreetly let me know that I couldn't because they were "federally insured". I politely disagreed and suggested we talk to her manager. When we asked him, he just laughed and pulled his .357 out of his desk. Small bank with great people who know their customers. I guess it pays to stay with your local guys.
     
  15. JesseL

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    Apples and orangutans. The police don't have to protect me, but they're not telling me I can't protect myself either. In situations where they would tell me that (like being arrested), they do become liable for my safety.

    I'd much rather be able to protect myself, but if a business is going to create a dangerous environment that invites criminal attacks by making a disarmed victim zone, why shouldn't they be expected to pick up the slack?
     
  16. TAB

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    so if you don't have a gun you can't protect yourself... I see... Also remember you are thier guest when you go onto some one elses property.
     
  17. Librarian

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    What makes you think so?

    I find nothing in CA Penal Code that addresses CCW in banks.
     
  18. Border

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    Legal in MA. PO's don't always know the laws. I was told by one I don't have to register my new shotgun and I do.
     
  19. thebaldguy

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    It's legal in Minnesota unless it's posted.
     
  20. jrfoxx

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    You bring this up an awful lot.Do you not realize that many people are not physically capable of defending themselves in a hand to hand battle? Especially when their attacker has a weapon? what would you have them do, use their ninja skills to incapacitate their armed attacker with a chop to the throat? Probably not gonna work out real well for most people.Unarmed victim vs armed attacker, or unarmed small, weak, frail, or handicapped victim against healthy, average size and abilities attacker, even unarmed, is a losing battle for the victim. What would you suggest they do if they cant have a gun to even out the odds of not getting raped, killed, or seriously injured?
     
  21. Thernlund

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    Snapped this one on my way in to work this morning...

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  22. JesseL

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    So weapons are okay on Saturday and Sunday or between 6pm and 8am?
     
  23. CB900F

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    Fella's;

    AFAIK, it's legal in Wyoming, but illegal in Montana. However, it's been about 10 years since I lived in Wyoming & the law there may have changes.

    Why a bank would want to exclude concealed carry is a question that needs to be answered in this state. The state legislature didn't put that provision in without some lobbying from the financial institutions, I'll bet on that one. Now, how to get it rescinded?

    900F
     
  24. Thernlund

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    I don't care who ya are... that's funny.


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  25. btg3

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    Let's say an armed robber comes into your bank and demands money. And that you (or another customer) have a concealed handgun. Would you prefer that the cops pursue the robber afterward, or that gun play commence in the bank, putting folks at risk?

    No question that if he shoots, you should defend with your firearm, but if he just takes money, why draw and invite a gun fight?

    The bank wants him to leave with the money and let the cops handle it. They don't want to find out if any customers can handle it.
     
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