Carrying a Small Gun for SD

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My CCW's are a G26, Spyderco C07, and a P3AT. If I am going somewhere that I don't want to carry the G26, then I still have the other two weapons available. I started doing this quite a few years ago when "printing" was still a concern for a lot of people and I was making sales calls. My thoughts have always been that it's better to have a tiny gun than no gun at all.
 
I'd imagine a Glock 26 (can use you G19 mags as the spares) may be the perfect balance for you. Could try a shoulder holster or some other type of carry to see if that makes a slightly smaller G26 more comfortable.
 
Confidence is far more important than either gun or caliber. If you are thrust into a self-defense situation and doubt your ability to protect yourself with the gun of your choosing, you're losing already.

Prioritize correctly based on facts and your personal experience. If you are more confident in your ability with a full size 1911, carry that. Concealment should be prioritized lower, especially in WA where you are free to conceal poorly or not at all.

If you are confident in your ability with a .22, and confident the .22 will do the job, carry that (although I doubt many are). Don't pay too much attention to the youtube gurus; listen to your gut. Carry what works for you, what you feel confident can make the shot from the distances in which you practice.

JMHO
 
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I believe that if the circumstances demand it, one carries whatever mouse gun is available. There have been a few times when this is all I could carry. I've practiced with it extensively so know my "limitations." You'd be surprised how in a shirt pocket, it looks like a package of Marlboros. :) I've not carried it for a long time although still occasionally practice with it ..... just in case.

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Works for me.

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I can and do hit an 8X10 steel plate with darn near every shot at 75 feet with my LCP and my J-Frame 38 special. I practice with them from 3 feet out to 75 feet on a regular basis. If you practice with them you will indeed hit your target and a 90 grain XTP at 1000 fps will not only piss off a bad guy, but will kill him dead with proper placement
 
Spyderco C07? Correct me if I'm wrong but that is the spyderco police with a 4.1" blade? I'm willing to bet you could ditch the pocket rockets and get by on that alone, lol.
 
You either care about concealing your gun or you don't. I think there are a lot of folks out there that flap a light shirt over a G19/17 (or equivalent size) and just don't care if it shows. That's concealing under the law, but not to the rest of society that has eyes.

To those that actually care about concealing and being inconspicuous, it will involve some planning, around the gun and the dress.

News flash, NO ONE knows "what the threat level will be" if god forbid the day ever comes. You either carry big and don't care that people see it or you compromise so that they don't. There's nothing wrong with either way but for Pete's sake own it.

In the ultra humid hot months in VA I carry an LC9s with a spare mag because it's all but invisible IWB with a light T-shirt. Would I rather carry my cooler months full size 18rd gun year round? Sure, but it's absolutely not concealable in that weather unless you want to dress like it's 30-40* when it's actually 90-100*.


As far as caliber I personally don't like anything less than .380 but prefer and currently use 9mm as a minimum. With the amount of available small 9's on the market right now that can be carried just about any way imaginable, and how inexpensive 9mm ammo is, there's really no reason to go with anything less.
 
my go to gun is the glock 30 45 acp. it is light and compact. but if for some reason this will not be practical to carry due to circumstances beyond my control I have a nice 10 oz Taurus tcp 380 that fits perfect in my pocket and works very well. Always have a gun at a gun fight. it beats the hell out of empty hands or a stick.
 
Even if you are not able to hit a shooter at 25 yds. with a .380, the fact that these cowards are getting return fire is very likely going to make them duck or run away. Getting shot at themselves breaks their focused mindset and makes them realize they are vulnerable as well.
 
I'll allow I have a S&W M640-38Spl (5Rds), that is as small as I go. Normally during the warm months a S&W MP9c (12Rds) and cooler months a S&W MP9 (17Rds), for concealed carry. Yes I dress around the weapon as opposed to my dress dictates the weapon.
 
If circumstances prohibit my usual choices for carry, I'll have an LCP in my pocket. Something is always better than nothing, in my opinion. There are some pretty decent loads for .380 nowadays, and it's accurate enough for its purpose. Mr. Farago isn't above posting contentious opinions for the sake of stirring the pot, as that's how websites stay alive.

The LCP is the smallest pistol I've carried myself. Majority of shooters say that a 9mm is the smallest for effective ballistics, but a 380 should work in short order with appropriate type of ammo. The LCP is so tiny that it literally disappears in most pockets. There are also a few single stack pocket pistols available now such as Glock 42/43, S&W Shield, Berretta Nano, etc.
 
I carry an LCP Custom in my pocket daily. I have recently purchased 2 of the 7 round magazines for it, meaning I can pocket carry and have 15 rounds at my disposal. The trigger on the Custom and the extended mags make shooting it accurately, pretty easy with just a little practice.

Rule 1 Have a gun.
My thoughts mirror Barnett.'s .
I trust that I won't be needing it 99.999% of the time. But if needed...i will have something sufficient that I have practiced extensively with.
I might also have more effective means in my vehicle in the event of the unspeakable
 
I like the small uncle mikes pocket holsters because you can fit two spare LCP mags in them and it's profile is much like a wallet so you've got 18rds on hand. Glock19 in a daily carry pack always close by if nessasary.
I can't carry a compact glock everyday on my person, it's just not feasible for daily life at work but I happily pocket carry an LCP all day every day and have the G19 close by in my day pack. That system works well for me......... however I do not have any special affinity for the .380acp cartidge, been thinking about swapping out for a J frame.........
 
Lots of interesting thoughts and some experiences.

Yes, compared to larger handguns, smaller handguns are usually harder for many people to shoot well. Hardly surprising.

Yes, many owners dislike shooting the smaller guns, and may not invest the requisite time and effort to try and maximize their skills using them. Again, hardly surprising.

Yes, the very attributes that usually make small handguns so preferable for lawful concealment typically makes them more difficult to shoot, especially under stress. Worth keeping in mind.

Yes, "pocketable" (holstered) diminutive handguns are generally chambered in a smaller, less powerful caliber than most of the larger, common service/defensive handguns. This is a mental coin toss. Now we're really at the lower end of things in the already "low-powered" defensive handgun, when it comes to the realm of ballistics. It is what it is, and it deserves some careful consideration by folks. After all, if the venerable .25's, .32's, .380's (and, of course, .22's) were powerful enough to make the leap from pocket guns to duty/service guns, they'd have done so. In the world of compromise when it comes to handguns, the smaller pocket guns (and their calibers) are leading candidates for the very definition of "compromise". Pick your compromise, and be prepared to accept the consequences.

These are all very valid points that certainly bear careful consideration.

That said, I commonly carry one of several different J-frames, and I've picked up a couple of LCP's in recent years.

I've even picked up a couple of NAA mini revolvers chambered in .22MAG, to complement an older one I picked up many years ago (and which had remained in the back of my safe until 3-4 years ago). While usually considered as novelty guns, or a type of "gentleman's pocket jewelry", they seem pretty nicely done little firearms, and I sometimes like to think of them as filling the niche of being an Onion Field" type of pocketable gun.

My J-frames saw a lot of use when I was frequently working training/qual ranges as a firearms instructor at my former agency, but then I'm a long time revolver shooter and have used them for many years. Yes, as they become increasingly lighter they offer some increasing felt recoil snap, and it doesn't take long for the bottom of my trigger finger to start to get hammered (rising trigger guard hitting my finger when +P loads are used). I do it, though, because I like to carry one or another of them and want to keep my skills from rusting away.

I remember when I bought my first Airweight, an earlier production 642-1, when they were first released. I'd ever only used steel snubs, and even then, mine had been gathering dust in the safe for a few years, following my increased interest with some compact pistols I'd been acquiring. I invested the time to shoot a couple cases of ammunition through it, using an assortment of budget ball, LRN & LSWC, and then increasingly adding +P loads to the mix. I also used an available 640 in our training safe (early one marked with the +P+ designation), and took advantage of the timely availability of several cases of some former revolver 110gr +P+ .38 Spl duty ammunition that needed to be burned up, putting in more range time to reawaken and dust off my DA revolvers skills with snappy recoiling little snubs.

Nowadays I own more than half a dozen of the little 5-shot revolvers, with the majority of them having aluminum or Scandium aluminum frames. A couple of the lightweight snubs are chambered in .357 Magnum, but after using Magnum loads to do a couple of quals with the hard-kicking little snubs (just to demonstrate that I could), I eventually settled on mostly carrying one or another of my usual +P loads in them. One of my more pristine snubs, a M37-2DAO, only sees standard pressure loads, out of deference to it's older "pre-Magnum" size frame and metallurgy.

I've done enough range time over the years with them (while working as a LE firearms instructor) to know their, and my, limitations in using them. I wouldn't be carrying them if I couldn't run them well enough to justify it to myself.

I feel much the sane way after a few years of range drills, practice & qual sessions with my LCP's. The little .380 guns were a bit snappy at first, which is understandable considering their approx 9oz weight. However, more range time made them easier to use, and it eventually reached a point where I was running them as fast and as accurately as my J's, when staying within 10-15yds on drills and qual courses-of-fire. Sure, if I'm going to push the distance out to 30-50yds, to assess my skillset basics at distance now and again, I'd much rather use one of my 5-shot snubs. The heavier bullet weights in my .38 snubs seem to produce some better results at longer range accuracy practice. (Well, that, and there's something still inherently comforting about the predictable long and smooth DA/DAO trigger stroke of the S&W snubs.)
 
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