Carrying at work where it isn't allowed

[JERRY]

first considerations are: is it against the law and or is it against company policy?

one might get you a jail cell and unemployed, the other might just get you unemployed.

 

[David E]

At a bullseye match, I'd agree.
For SD at less than 7 yards... LOL.

So I'm guessing you have NOT shot them side by side.

The sights are only part of it, which may or may not be critical in a given situation....(but they may be critical, you just can't predict.)

But let's go with your envisioned scenario: I'm face to face with the bad guy at 5-10 feet and all I have is a .380. I want to fire as fast as I can hit the face/neck area. The Sig will let me do that faster than the DAO Keltec.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

When it's absolutely necessary to conceal my carry gun I carry a Kel-Tec P-32. If you're buying new you might want to consider a P-3AT in .380 Auto instead of a .32 Auto but I'm happy with the P-32 because it's a good balance between size and shootability.

Both Kel-Tec pistols are reliable, small and affordable. Many will recommend the Ruger LCP but IMO why buy the clone when you can buy the original. Ruger copied the P-3AT and is charging much more because they are Ruger. (no, I'm not a Ruger hater, I have several Rugers)

 

[GRIZ22]

I guess it would depend on how easy your job is to replace. If you're making 150K a year and that's the lifestyle you and your family live I'd say don't carry. Supporting your family in a style they are accustomed may be more important than what "might" happen. 150K jobs are not easy to find anywhere now. If you have a job you can replace tomorrow go ahead. Keep in mind you will also have to wind up informing your next prospective employer why you were fired from your last job. This can make it difficult to find a new job.

IMO someone will eventually find out you are carrying.

I was never faced with this choice as I worked as a LEO.

 

[Red Wind]

I really have nothing new to add so I’ll just summarize.
If caught expect to lose your job and possibly your permit.
If you choose to carry anyway do not tell anyone that you work with. Under any circumstance. EVER.
If I were going to carry contrary to company policy it would be a small pocket pistol and it would remain in my pocket at all times. I don’t like off body carry

Very good advice. Do not tell anyone, even your best friend.

 

[kimbershot]

had a crap pt job as a wheelchair car driver that took me to very interesting areas-(methadone treatment centers etc.-i carried a seecamp 32--i know it's not the greatest, but it would change some attitudes. some of the ambulance drivers wore bullet proof vests (they have drugs on board). no one advertised carrying as it was against policy,

 

[grimjaw]

I've been employed in places where entry into the workplace required passing through a metal detector. There was no alternate route, and the walk to my car was at least a quarter of a mile in a densely populated urban environment. Not that I would ever DO such a thing as violate my employer's workplace rules, but there was no practical, legal way to try to bypass the security station. There was also no locker or storage space close to the building, yet still within a reasonable distance of the front doors. Even if I did have the option of being separated from the firearm, I do not like to do that.

I've worked on military bases as a contractor, and while there wasn't always a metal detector at the front gate, there was a security checkpoint that would periodically and randomly perform vehicle searches for both entry AND exit.

If I had ever chosen to take on the risk of potential loss of employment and possible criminal prosecution (I occasionally worked in D.C.), the only gun I would have been comfortable carrying would have been VERY concealable; something along the lines of a Ruger LCP. I didn't make so much money or have a huge safety net, and loss of employment under the circumstances of a firearms cloud on a federal facility could have ended my career permanently.

 

[crazyjennyblack]

CarolinaChuck - you have a right to your opinion, but for some of us (especially women) there are worse things that can happen than being killed, and I don't mean getting $20 stolen. I wouldn't kill someone over $20 either, so I carry a "backup wallet" with a fake credit card and a few bucks - an easy solution. I totally agree that people should outrun or out-think the criminals, and avoid a lethal confrontation where possible. BUT, I also refuse to entrust my safety to the good graces of a criminal, and I refuse to entrust my safety solely to my ability to run away.

As for working at a no-CCW place, that seems to be almost everywhere these days. I try to avoid no-CCW places like banks, post offices, and fed property wherever I can. I obey the law and avoid jail. When it comes to places that are posted, I try to avoid those too, but if I had to work in one then I value my safety more than I value my job. I would be in favor of legislation that prohibits employers from banning legally carried weapons.

I'm fortunate to work at a spot where I can carry, but if it wasn't allowed I would pick a small .380 or a 9mm, and a very secure holster, and I would put the gun in a "private" spot that nobody is going to be touching or bumping up against. As for the rights of property owners, I feel that they have as much right to say what kind of protection I've got as they do to say what kind of undergarments I wear. It doesn't harm them, and they're not going to see it.

 

[zxcvbob]

A reasonably large fast-open knife.

 

[ugaarguy]

Enough. This has devolved into personal insults and useless rhetoric.