Carrying concealed at a gun show

[Ironicaintit]

You had to surrender your ammo? Was it returned when you left, or did they keep it?

No, i got it back. He watched me load it up and stow it away cocked and locked....never did ask to see my permit. He was a nice fellow that i think understood my gripe.

 

[Ironicaintit]

Do you hear yourselves? Same arguments the antis use. Blood in the streets...what if an accident occurs.... Blah blah. Selling the "they wanna take er guns" propaganda while paying for space in an arena that actually prohibits carrying. Hypocritical.

Thats what im thinking.
I could not go to the show, because of a worry about idjits being dumb, or because of a reg i dont like.....but then, that keeps me from going where id like to go! For arguably absurd reasons, to boot.
Ive always had a sidearm on me at events like this, and it has never ever been an issue.
Ive never seen an incident that made me think twice about the people who attend, either.
Statistically speaking, gun owners in general, and CC holders in particular, have proven to be among the safest and most law abiding people in the country. So, i guess i just dont get the argument.

I think next time; i will disarm first, then just sit and debate the merits of the policy with any officers present, and management if i can find any. I may have some letter writing to do in the meantime as well.
I appreciate your input, everybody!

 

[heyjoe]

guyfromohio

Do you hear yourselves? Same arguments the antis use. Blood in the streets...what if an accident occurs.... Blah blah. Selling the "they wanna take er guns" propaganda while paying for space in an arena that actually prohibits carrying. Hypocritical

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exactly what i was thinking while i read this thread. Bloomberg would be proud.

 

[X-Rap]

We have a lack of accountability in our society today and the result is these blanket regulations. I still think it's important to differentiate between the laws of the state and the wishes of private property owners when it comes to carrying guns.
It seems hypocritical for the promoter to ban carry guns being loaded but it is worse for the state to say I can't have a gun at some private venue be it a gunshow, church, sporting event or county fair.

 

[JRH6856]

Well, if insurors require disarmed attendance, and legal carriers refuse to enter in response, it could either close the "gun show loophole" as attendence drops, or open it a lot wider as the majority of attendees might be prohibited persons.

 

[X-Rap]

To be honest, I think what you do with your concealed gun is largely your own business, what I don't care for is the possibility of hard time just for possessing it. I really don't think one is going to be made if they're doing it well so the only time you'd be found out is if there were an occasion to draw it. In that case I'd much rather be scolded and hit with a misdemeanor that won't effect my gunrights than a felony that will eliminate them.

 

[MICHAEL T]

That's what a KetTec for . Last time I wasted money and time. I carried my KelTec. I no longer go to gun shows. That charged $10 to get in and oh women and kids are no longer free Now the $10 is $60 . That was my last show. Didn't count the cost to park.

Around here can buy guns at a Flea market or Lots of private sales at Court days . lot more fun .

 

[ILikeLead]

Ironic ain't it.

Seems the op handle says it all.


This is the main reason I don't go to gun shows anymore. Not a good enough reason for me to disarm

 

[BK]

I was just following that logic to its conclusion. If an insurance company can demand I surrender my rights at a gun show, as a condition of coverage, because somebody may do something stupid; then it logically follows that they could (under pressure from whomever) decide that if you own a gun at all, then you risk losing coverage of your car, your home, or your life. I wasnt saying thats what is, just that the "sensible" argument can be just as easily applied to other areas that require insurance.

Correct.

If you want, or if you NEED the protections that are offered by an insurance company, you will have to hold up your end of that mutual agreement. You cannot expect their protections if you operate outside of their guidelines.

Think life or health insurance where they ask you about smoking. If you give them the impression that smoking will not be a contributing factor in your death/health, but it turns out to be a contributing factor that was withheld, they aren't obligated to compensate you when you would want them to. Because you didn't abide by the business agreement, they also will not abide their end.

 

[Ironicaintit]

To be honest, I think what you do with your concealed gun is largely your own business, what I don't care for is the possibility of hard time just for possessing it. I really don't think one is going to be made if they're doing it well so the only time you'd be found out is if there were an occasion to draw it. In that case I'd much rather be scolded and hit with a misdemeanor that won't effect my gunrights than a felony that will eliminate them.

While I agree in spirit with that....i dont relish the idea of going to court after having used it in self defense, and having a prosecutor tell the jury all about how i knowingly and willfully disregarded the law. Even in a clear cut "clean shoot", that would paint me in a worse light. Worse even, than using reloads in your CC.

 

[Ironicaintit]

If you want, or if you NEED the protections that are offered by an insurance company, you will have to hold up your end of that mutual agreement. You cannot expect their protections if you operate outside of their guidelines.

Yeah, i get that. What I dont appreciate is the use of insurance coverage as leverage against the exercising of my right to defend myself.
Its most likely a "bottom line" issue, with some bean counter using an algorithm to determine risk, and then requiring "no guns" as a condition of coverage.

And yet, it doesnt take much imagination to see the possibility of this being used maliciously. WH Administrations coerce banks and auto makers, etc into policies...they could do the same with insurance companies.

But then again, maybe my alcoa hat is on too tight.

 

[Drail]

The only reason the insurance industry in this country takes the stance they do is because of the legal industry in this country and Judges who allow ridiculous liability cases in their courtrooms. It's a business and they will do anything they have to if they want to stay in business by selling their customers whatever they want. It has nothing to do with your rights. It's about corporate survival in a world where lawyers and Judges can take everything you own. Shakespeare was right.

 

[Frank Ettin]

Really not a legal discussion.