carrying in a facility that serves alcohol?

[RetiredUSNChief]

Before I retired my job was in and out of all types of food establishments. I used to see these posted in some of the most inconspicuous places in these types. Made it hard to determine when you walked in. I have walked in carrying on more than one occasion and never saw a sign until after sitting down or even walking out the door. Yes one place had it posted where you saw on the way out. Another way up close to the top of tall ceiling behind the bar with all kinds of other stuff. I just went on about my business and didn't worry about it. Food was good as well.

I find that the whole sign issue can give me as many holes as the people who post them are trying to fill. It's obvious that many people are not aware of their jurisdictional laws on the matter of signage.

If such signs do not carry the weight of law, then I ignore them.

If they're not posted correctly in accordance with their jurisdictional statutes, and therefore do not carry the weight of law, I ignore them as well. And I'm not in the habit of educating those places on their ignorance, either. Like the library near the house with a no guns sign posted below knee level. Or the little 3 x 5 card sized no guns sign up near the ceiling in some of the Waffle Houses at home.

Given that I travel across three states between home and work, and that I have relatives scattered across many more states, it pays to keep track of these matters.

Indiana (now a permitless state), for example, has an interesting caveat to their statutes with respect to reciprocity. Indiana is where I was born and I used to have a carry permit there. These days home is South Carolina...and Indiana honors SC permits. The caveat is that Indiana says whatever restrictions apply to any permit holder in their home state ALSO applies while in Indiana. As a result, there are some places a person with an Indiana permit can go that I cannot with my SC permit. The wording has changed a wee bit, but still means the same.

 

[Southerner up North]

In Michigan, carry is prohibited if 50.1% of the establishment's revenue if from alcohol sales.

 

[Charlie98]

For example, a gun owner with a concealed carry permit can bring a gun into a restaurant but they are prohibited under Florida law from having it anywhere near the eatery’s bar.

In my previous post, I mentioned Constitutional Carry here in TX. My FFL and I were talking at my last visit (or two, I can't remember...) and he was telling me the TX CHL allows you to carry places the Consti Carry doesn't. I don't know the specifics, but I take the man at his word... he's forgotten more about firearms law than I'll ever know. I keep telling my brother and SIL that they need to get their CHL for this very reason... yes, it's a hassle, but it solves a lot of problems.

If they're not posted correctly in accordance with their jurisdictional statutes, and therefore do not carry the weight of law, I ignore them as well.

Same here. One of the liberal grocery store chains had non-compliant signage up for a while... one entrance had some made up sticker, the other one didn't have anything, but since then they must have wised up and put up state complaint signage.... so I shop somewhere else, now.