Cast bullets... Think they're lubed?

Status
Not open for further replies.

wankerjake

Member
Joined
Apr 6, 2008
Messages
2,509
Location
Flagstaff AZ
Awhile back I purchased a partial lot of reloading materials from an estate type sale. A gentleman had passed and apparently had an enormous amount of reloading supplies but all I bought was the first 4 crates/toolboxes they carried out. Mostly it was powder but there were some 38/357 158gr LSWC bullets that I assume are home cast. I say this because there was a lead dipper in the lot, and a jar of 158gr (different mould style) LSWC's that are lubed and gas checked, look like home cast to me. These have obvious lube in the lube rings. Also the bullets were in jars and coffe cans, and not in manufacturer packaging.

Anyway, the bullets in question were in a can with wax paper in the bottom. At first glance they look un-lubed. Not wanting to mess with lubing them I counted them to sell, but when I handle them they feel a little waxy and they smell like crayons. However, there is no lube in the lube rings although there is a very small amount of residue in some of them. The residue does not look like the lube I'm used to, rather white powder/crumbles. It's like possibly they were lubed at one point, but there is no lube crumbles/residue at the bottom of the can.

I took pics but they are on my computer at home and I'm at work. I don't think they'll help much, the bullets look like unlubed lead bullets except when you hold a handful you can feel a light coating of wax/grease on your hands and they smell like crayons... leading me to believe they are lubed in some way. Just not the obvious lube packed into the lube grooves.

So casters; does this sound like a process of lubing? Like a tumble lube maybe? Does it sound like adequate lubing? I guess I can alway shoot them and see how bad they lead the barrel but I'd just as soon not mess with the possible hassle at this time in my life (kids keep me busy enough). I have 250 of these, I'd love to shoot them but I don't have time to lube them. Any advice appreciated, I can post pics tonight but my guess is that the description may be enough for a seasoned bullet caster to tell. That, or you would need to actually handle them to tell.
 
I see. Maybe I'll give them a try then. They are sticky (albeit slightly), they smell like crayons... I mean, there has to be some amount of lube on them. I just wonder if it's enough. I had some Hornady cast bullets awhile back with no lube grooves at all, I guess they kinda feel like those. Kinda but different. I guess I just expect to see lube like I'm used to.
 
I had some of the Hornady lead bullets as well and they had like a powder residue on them. The way your explaining it, I would assume Tumble Lubing. Maybe the LLA or it could even be the 45/45/10 but I am not so sure.

The reason I am not so sure is because you mention crayons. I know LLA smells more like think motor oil to me and 45/45/10 smells pretty odd itself...
 
Here is my advice as a caster. First if there is a way to check their diameter that would be a good thing to look at (especially if you want to sell them as anything but scrap lead). If they haven't been lubed they might not have been sized either. Although with lead if they chamber they shoot so it wouldn't hurt to load up a few and see if you are happy with the results. There is no reason to fix something that might not be broken.

I tumble lube all my bullets but what you describe doesn't sound like Lee tumble lube unless they have drastically changed their recipe. If you are unhappy with the results tumble lube is only $5 a bottle and I get way more than Lee's guess on 1000 bullets lubed per bottle. I'm getting closer to 2500.

Remember lead bullets can always be melted down again if you decide to get into casting. Nothing about that changes if they sit in a box for a few years while you make up your mind.
 
First if there is a way to check their diameter
Yes that was the first thing I did, they measure .3575". I'd prefer a good .358" but I'm not totally turned off.

You could probably tumble lube them in fourteen seconds.
Your sarcasm prompted me to look into tumble lubing more thoroughly and while I think 15 minutes including prep time is a bit more accurate, it is indeed within my time capabilities. My brief how-to lube search was yielding pan lubing and lubisizer methods that I'm not interested in at this time.

By the way, that's a good sig line;)


it wouldn't hurt to load up a few and see if you are happy with the results. There is no reason to fix something that might not be broken.

Yeah, I think this is where I'll start and if I don't like that then I can splurge for a $5 bottle of Lee liquid alox and 15 minutes of work. Thanks guys, I knew casters would have an answer.
 
Pan lubing pistol bullets didn't work well for me when I attempted it. It was more mess than I wanted and I found the results unsatisfactory. This could just be my aptitude or the activity. Tumble lubing was slightly better, but I didnt like the residue it leaves on the bullet. I bought a Lyman Luber Sizer, but if I had a finite amount of lead bullets that was under 10,000 I would have just tumble lubed them and dealt with the resulting mess.
 
You just reminded me to buy some Lee tumble lube............. I have a bucket of .45 240gr cast bullets that need to be lubed. For range fodder what the hell just tumble.
 
Awhile back I purchased a partial lot of reloading materials from an estate type sale. A gentleman had passed and apparently had an enormous amount of reloading supplies but all I bought was the first 4 crates/toolboxes they carried out. Mostly it was powder but there were some 38/357 158gr LSWC bullets that I assume are home cast. I say this because there was a lead dipper in the lot, and a jar of 158gr (different mould style) LSWC's that are lubed and gas checked, look like home cast to me. These have obvious lube in the lube rings. Also the bullets were in jars and coffe cans, and not in manufacturer packaging.

Anyway, the bullets in question were in a can with wax paper in the bottom. At first glance they look un-lubed. Not wanting to mess with lubing them I counted them to sell, but when I handle them they feel a little waxy and they smell like crayons. However, there is no lube in the lube rings although there is a very small amount of residue in some of them. The residue does not look like the lube I'm used to, rather white powder/crumbles. It's like possibly they were lubed at one point, but there is no lube crumbles/residue at the bottom of the can.

I took pics but they are on my computer at home and I'm at work. I don't think they'll help much, the bullets look like unlubed lead bullets except when you hold a handful you can feel a light coating of wax/grease on your hands and they smell like crayons... leading me to believe they are lubed in some way. Just not the obvious lube packed into the lube grooves.

So casters; does this sound like a process of lubing? Like a tumble lube maybe? Does it sound like adequate lubing? I guess I can alway shoot them and see how bad they lead the barrel but I'd just as soon not mess with the possible hassle at this time in my life (kids keep me busy enough). I have 250 of these, I'd love to shoot them but I don't have time to lube them. Any advice appreciated, I can post pics tonight but my guess is that the description may be enough for a seasoned bullet caster to tell. That, or you would need to actually handle them to tell.
If I was you I would use them.
 
White Label Lube Liquid XLOX is as good or better than Lee or Rooster Jacket and it's almost half the price.

Odds are they were home lubed probably with ALOX but who really knows what some people did.

.3575" will work on most 357s especially at lighter loads.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top