AJC1
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Gas checks are used generally in high pressure applications, while TL seems to be used in low pressure. Pc kinda destroys those ideas in bullet design, but using traditional methods it seems odd to me.How so?
Gas checks are used generally in high pressure applications, while TL seems to be used in low pressure. Pc kinda destroys those ideas in bullet design, but using traditional methods it seems odd to me.How so?
I have run a tumble lubed GC design to over 1350 fps in a revolver.A gas checked tumble lube design seems counter productive?
But how much is your time worth? I'm buying 405gr .458's for 22 cents and 158gr .358's for 7 cents. You're saving $25 per 500 158's but how much time are you investing in them? This is the distinction, when you enjoy it, you don't factor in the value of your time. When you do not enjoy it, it's only natural to look at cold numbers.
I hear this argument often from casters but have yet to encounter that situation and I reload some oddball stuff. I'm about to start loading for the .50-95 and it hasn't been a problem finding proper bullets.
Gas checks are used generally in high pressure applications, while TL seems to be used in low pressure. Pc kinda destroys those ideas in bullet design, but using traditional methods it seems odd to me.
Gas checks are used generally in high pressure applications, while TL seems to be used in low pressure. Pc kinda destroys those ideas in bullet design, but using traditional methods it seems odd to me.
That's kinda my point. You do it because you enjoy it. There's not something else you'd rather be doing. For many people, this is a question of time vs money. When you have a shortage of money but plenty of time, you might want to cast your own bullets. When you have a shortage of time but plenty of money, you buy them. What I find strange is the attitude of many casters that anyone who isn't doing what they're doing, is somehow inferior.When my afternoon time I'll spend doing casting stuff would NOT otherwise be spent doing anything that can make me money the time factor doesn't matter. Maybe for other people who freelance in whatever they do it does but it doesn't for me.
I'm not talking about just any old thing to send downrange but specific needs and uncommon cartridges. I needed 300-350gr .512's to feed my .50-95, I just ordered some that were in stock at Buffalo Arms. No compromises had to be made, if I was casting, I'd be casting the same thing I ordered. Yes, they cost more than casting them myself but I'm paying for the convenience of not having to cast them. I can spend my time doing things I'd rather be doing, like shooting.Finding ANY kind of projectile for a cartridge, for most cartridges, probably isn't hard, I'm sure. But you may still pay much more for specific items than what it might cost to make them, especially if you want to make a lot of them.
Close enough and I knew right where to look.Say you wanted a real 170gr KSWC with a gas check, hollow point, hi-tek coated, sized to .359" and cast in an alloy that's 11-12BHN. That's a tall order to find someone selling commercially cast without placing a special order, if anyone will take that order.
That's kinda my point. You do it because you enjoy it. There's not something else you'd rather be doing. For many people, this is a question of time vs money. When you have a shortage of money but plenty of time, you might want to cast your own bullets. When you have a shortage of time but plenty of money, you buy them. What I find strange is the attitude of many casters that anyone who isn't doing what they're doing, is somehow inferior.
I'm not talking about just any old thing to send downrange but specific needs and uncommon cartridges. I needed 300-350gr .512's to feed my .50-95, I just ordered some that were in stock at Buffalo Arms. No compromises had to be made, if I was casting, I'd be casting the same thing I ordered. Yes, they cost more than casting them myself but I'm paying for the convenience of not having to cast them. I can spend my time doing things I'd rather be doing, like shooting.
Close enough and I knew right where to look.
https://rimrockbullets.com/xcart/g-ch-38-357-158-gr-swc-hp-per-100-in-a-plastic-ammo-box.html
https://www.mattsbullets.com/index....ducts_id=323&zenid=2oagp3t2t51gjd4mqjcia7q4d7
Casters love to tinker and the line between 'want' and 'need' gets blurred in the process. Like I said, it's nothing but cold hard facts for me, no emotion or "fun" involved.You're opinion of "close enough" and mine are clearly very different. But to each their own. Like I said, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.
If I was doing something like that it would be to try and tune hollopoint performance. In 357 I can dial a speed. In 38 I would need to play with hardness. I can't speak for their goals or reasons.Which is not even to address why someone would want powder coating and a gas check on such a soft bullet.