CCI Blazer ammo banned at some ranges

[Flashcube]

The only boxer primed aluminium cased blazer I know of is their .45ACP. Everything else I've run across is still berdan.

 

[Schwing]

None of the ranges in my area have this ban but I have seen some pretty aggressive tactics to try and keep patron's brass.

A really nice indoor range opened up a few months ago about 3 blocks away from my house. After going and loving it a couple of times, they posted a sign saying that you could not pick up even your own brass for "safety reasons"... even though they still asked patrons to sweep up their brass and push it out into their lane when done.

Needless to say, their parking lot emptied over night. They dropped the policy about 2 weeks later but I do not believe they have fully recovered from it and have probably permanently lost a lot of business for a very ridiculous/greedy policy.

 

[OilyPablo]

My indoor range (winter only for me) is a great place. Great staff, you can pick up and keep your own brass. The main rules are safety rules. Etc. That said, the only rules about ammo are: no steel, no aluminum cases. Period.

 

[Paul24]

dogtown tom, Blazer aluminum with boxer primers may not be in their catalog but they are on ground at the range. Would like some via mail?

 

[Paul24]

Flashcube, 9mm are here keep your eyes open they are on their way.

 

[TrickyDick]

i wa looking into a range that had a policy "Once the brass hits the foor, you can't pick it up" This even went for loaded ammo. It was ridiculous

 

[Torian]

i wa looking into a range that had a policy "Once the brass hits the foor, you can't pick it up" This even went for loaded ammo. It was ridiculous

The brass is your property whether it is in your gun or on the ground. Even if they post such rules, I doubt such nonsense would hold up legally.

Either way, if I saw that type of greedy behavior from range owners, I would give them all the bad publicity I could and them dump them.

 

[mdauben]

i wa looking into a range that had a policy "Once the brass hits the foor, you can't pick it up" This even went for loaded ammo. It was ridiculous

I'd make sure I shot nothing but aluminum cased ammo there.

 

[22-rimfire]

I don't buy CCI Blazer in aluminum cases. Didn't care much for the 40 S&W and won't buy again. I suppose I might if that is all I can find.

Never heard of a range not allowing Blazer anthing. There are a few indoor ranges that insist you buy and shoot their ammo at their range.

 

[Twmaster]

So when did CCI begin using boxer primers in their aluminum cases?
According to their current catalog they are still using Berdan primers on the aluminum cases: http://www.blazer-ammo.com/

I don't know the answer Tom. I do know CCI aluminum comes boxer primed in every pistol caliber they make.

I have cases from .25ACP to .45ACP in aluminum in my junk box. All boxer primed. Want me to bring some this week when I pick up that revolver?

 

[Armor Snail]

I agree with many here. They wouldn't get a penny from me. If you are policing your own casings then what is the problem? They are simply greedy and or lazy. The one local one near me I've been to on occasion asks you to pick up your own brass and either keep it or put it in their barrel. The aluminum cases get tossed in the trash with shot shell hulls if you care to dispose of them. A very professional approach IMO.

Many ban steel cased ammo but for the right reason. Its not the casing. It's the bi-metal jacketed bullet used in most all steel cased cartridges(Hornady Steel Match excluded). Which has a tendency to spark upon impact with many backstop designs and ignite gases in the air.


I recall reading on every box I've bought of Blazer Aluminum that they are CCI boxer primed with Speer bullets.
Very good ammo IMO. My CZ never choked on it. I did find some quite visually noticeable differences in OAL on some of their 158g LRN .38spl one time.

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[Miked7762]

This is all over a single review that is three years old. The reviewer is upset over the (then) large price increase. First it was the "last five ranges" he visited banned it, then "most ranges have huge signs" banning all Blazer.

Read between the lines.

 

[tipoc]

Originally Posted by dogtown tom View Post
So when did CCI begin using boxer primers in their aluminum cases?
According to their current catalog they are still using Berdan primers on the aluminum cases: http://www.blazer-ammo.com/

I don't see where they mention the use of Berdan primers at all in their catalog. Can you point that out specifically?

Most U.S. made ammo uses Boxer by default. Not that it would make any difference with their aluminum ammo as you don't reload it. The point of using Boxer is it is easier to reload.

tipoc

 

[dogtown tom]

tipoc ...I don't see where they mention the use of Berdan primers at all in their catalog. Can you point that out specifically?

Click on "View the Blazer Catalog", look at the picture of the sectioned cartridge case with two flash holes.

 

[Brad.]

Dogtown tom Blazer puts the two holes so cheap guys like my self don't experiment with it and reload it due to it being aluminum...like I some times do with steel after loading some 45 acp S&B brass washed steel cases and found out it's not really that unsafe...but reloading aluminum would just be dangerous most of that stuff comes out of the gun with a crack in it plus the capacities would be way different.

 

[Twmaster]

Tom, I suspect they are using old stock photos of the cases.

Without exception every aluminum case I've collected at the range has been boxer primed. I have in my junk box 25 thru 45 caliber aluminum cases.

Brad,

Yes, some times the aluminum cases are brittle. However, I have reloaded hundreds of them and fired them successfully. Now, having said that I'm not too keen on reloading those cases for a third go-round.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I loathe the indoor commercial range as a shooting venue and rules like "Your brass is ours" and "No Blazer" is just another reason for loathing.

I shoot at a gun club with outdoor ranges. Brass is yours until you drive off and abandon it. If you don't pickup your brass before you leave, you must sweep it up and dump it in the trash barrel. Misfired or damaged live rounds go into a box for later disposal. Individuals may scavenge brass for reloading or recycling (the mowers don't want brass over .22 in the grass). Shooters seriously into reloading their pistol ammo will wear a brass catcher on their shooting hand (especially at fast paced matches). At the family homestead in the mountains, I shoot outdoors and pickup my reloadable brass. I don't have to deal with someone claiming my brass after I have paid to shoot at their range, plus I do not have to worry about poor ventilation allowing the build up of airborne lead indoors.

But on topic: CCI Blazer ammo banned at some ranges because some ranges count on selling brass as part of their profit margin. It seems it would cost less in public relations with some of the public if they simply charged the difference and require all shooters to police their own brass, aluminum or steel casings, and hang a broom and dustpan with extended handle at the firing line like the club does.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I loathe the indoor commercial range as a shooting venue and rules like "Your brass is ours" and "No Blazer" is just another reason for loathing.

Fortunately, I haven't yet run into such a range.

 

[HexHead]

A lot of people automatically assume that all "Blazer" is aluminum.

This. There are usually long intervals between when I even see Blazer brass anywhere.

 

[HexHead]

We have a range here that doesn't allow reloaded ammo to be used. They also have a black line drawn towards the top of their target holders. If you hit above that line, they fine you something like $30.

We had another range, where unless you paid for a $300 annual membership, and still had to pay a range fee when you shot, you couldn't bring your own ammo. You had to purchase theirs.

I do 90% of my shooting at my gun club. I'm also shooting revolvers and bolt guns more now so I don't have to chase my brass.

 

[aka108]

I shoot at a public range and anything except tracer and armour piercing is allowed. Not everyone picks up their cases. Reloaders like myself will pick up cases that we can use. Scrappers pick up the rest. They take the aluminum, steel and brass cases. Guess there is some value in all of it.

 

[Mainsail]

I find it much more convenient to just go set up somewhere in the National Forest. No drama, no headaches, and sometimes you get lucky. The aluminum was left where it was. The brass came home with me.

 

[bdickens]

might be that your range wants you to shoot and leave brass cases at the range for them to collect and sell. The Blazer aluminum cases are worthless and need to be separated from the good brass stuff.

Personally, I'd ask the Range management for the answer and go from there.

That's the exact explanation I got when I asked at two different local ranges.

 

[MrDig]

It isn't CCI Blazer that is banned at most ranges I visit. It is Aluminium Cased Ammo that is prohibited.
CCI Blazer is almost all aluminium cased. You have to step up and get Blazer Brass. More expensive but allowd because it is brass not aluminium.

 

[RussellC]

I loathe the indoor commercial range as a shooting venue and rules like "Your brass is ours" and "No Blazer" is just another reason for loathing.

I shoot at a gun club with outdoor ranges. Brass is yours until you drive off and abandon it. If you don't pickup your brass before you leave, you must sweep it up and dump it in the trash barrel. Misfired or damaged live rounds go into a box for later disposal. Individuals may scavenge brass for reloading or recycling (the mowers don't want brass over .22 in the grass). Shooters seriously into reloading their pistol ammo will wear a brass catcher on their shooting hand (especially at fast paced matches). At the family homestead in the mountains, I shoot outdoors and pickup my reloadable brass. I don't have to deal with someone claiming my brass after I have paid to shoot at their range, plus I do not have to worry about poor ventilation allowing the build up of airborne lead indoors.

But on topic: CCI Blazer ammo banned at some ranges because some ranges count on selling brass as part of their profit margin. It seems it would cost less in public relations with some of the public if they simply charged the difference and require all shooters to police their own brass, aluminum or steel casings, and hang a broom and dustpan with extended handle at the firing line like the club does.

Do tell me about this hand held brass catcher! I'm searching now but unsure what this device is/how it functions....I want one! Have seen them for AR 15 guns, but pistols would be sweet. Or is this a DIY thing?

Russellc