CCI Stinger as a defense round

[Sunray]

"...they will tear up a semiauto..." Nonsense. Ever hear of a law suit involving a semi-auto being damaged by any .22 ammo?
"...most won't do that for jack..." That's nonsense too. Stuff a cardboard box full of newspapers and shoot any .22 into it.

 

[maroast]

"...a chest full of 22s..." Not something I'd want to rely on.

Not even if it's 18 rounds with one trigger pull?

 

[Guvnor]

The rifle in question is a Savage mark II bolt action. Again, a horrible choice for defense but this is a BUG and I can work the bolt pretty fast. The gun will pretty much feed anything.

It sucks that .22lr is so hard to find right now. I have yet to find a store that sells any aguila stuff. Locally all I can seem to find are the mini-mags, stingers, velocitors, and federal round nose bulk stuff. I will try and keep an eye out for those yellow jackets and give them a try.

 

[Kernel]

Don't even try the Winchester Power Points. Leaves more for me.

Now, if I could only get all the Prairie Dog shooters to reject their near universal use of Power Points, then I'd be set.

 

[EAJ]

Velocitors over Stingers

Or perhaps the new Winchester Super-X Hyper Speed HP 22LR round.

 

[Moo 2 Drvr]

Another vote for the Velocitor. I have had nothing but good experience with CCI and while I like and use the Minimag and the Small Game Bullet, my favorite is the Velocitor. Stingers are reliable, but not all guns respond well with them - the Marlin 60 being one such example.

By the way, I use the Aguilla SSS 60 grain bullets in my Colt 6920 with a Ciener conversion. The 1 in 7 twist stabilizes these bullets much better than my Marlin 60 or my Ruger 10/22, for what it's worth.

 

[61chalk]

A THR member posted awhile back he dropped a intuder with one shot to the chest from his GSG-5 .22LR, the intruder had a 9mm an never got a shot off off. Guess the shot placement experts really do have a case.

 

[kinnykins]

Aguila Super Maximum 30 grain HP comes out at 1750fps and that equals 202lbs of muzzle energy bout the same as a 380acp . Shallow wounds , Hog Wash .. A bullet like that will blow out a large cavity while "fragmenting" that will cause massive shock & bleeding .
I use them in my 3" barreled back up pistol and from around 3 feet away I shot it at a 2X4 with a section of floor carpet on it to mimmick clothing . After the shot there was a section about the size of a half dollar that looked like splintered tooth pics and I thought
it went thru .. but it was just short of going thru ...I dug it out and I'd guess there was 80-90% of the bullet weight left . And Aguila rimfires are now Eley Primed
Velocitors went about half way thru ...
Stingers were close ...
I'd love to find the Aguila Interceptor in a hollw Point ..
But as mentioned above shoot a lot of what you want to use before relying on it for self defense ,cuz the baddest bullet in the world ain't gonna help ya if it won't function 100% in your weapon .
Like I said the Aguila is my back up pistol ... My main carry is a Para Ordnance Wart Hog the holds 11 rounds of 45acp There ain't no replacement for cubic displacement .

 

[Gunfighter123]

Another vote for the Rem. Yellow Jackets.

 

[BushyGuy]

i use CCI 40gr high velocity bullets in my .22lr semi-auto rifle, i also have soms tingers but i think the CCI 40 gr solids would do a better job in penetration then the stingers.

 

[Float Pilot]

Reliability and accuracy are the two key functions that any undersized cartridge must achieve to make up for other shortcomings.

I carry a little 8 shot S&W 22 Airlite revolver in my aircraft survival vets for shooting small critters. After shooting every type of 22 LR ammo possible I found that the CCI stingers were the best from that particular gun for accuracy.

On the other hand two of my bolt action 22 rifles hate Stingers and just about everything else, while only likiing the CCI mini-mag hollowpoints.

For example in my scoped Norinco bolt action 22, ($60 at a yard sale) I can shoot 10 CCI Mini Mags into one hole at 25 yards and hit clay pigeons at 100 yards.
The other types of ammo, including the Velocitors, were making 1 inch (plus) groups at 25 yards.... from that particular rifle...

I find that after shooting 300 rounds of the 60 grain sub-sonic Aguila ammo in various firearms, that I wasted my money on poorly made ammunition that is lacking in accuracy and quality control.

 

[klayton]

this topic is real ..... uh well .... out there!!!! you guys are getting into which 22 round is for self defense..... none..... i am maybe stepping on some toes here but that is NOT a self defense round i say if you dont have money to buy a proper pistol sell the 22 and get a highpoint pistol .... bout 150 bucks most reliable cheap ugly thing you can buy. but will work as self defense back up

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The problem is not so much that they "tear up" semi-autos.

I have guns that work well with Stinger, but one that won't shoot Stinger accurately (4-5 inch groups at 60 yds when other brands give 2-3 inch groups). The Stinger case is longer than standard long rifle (.71 inch versus .59 inch long) and may give ejection problems (the case is about the size of the obsolete Extra Long that feel between .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle in the history of rimfire development).

I have guns that work well with Aguila SSS 60 grain bullet in a .22 short case. I have other guns that give ejection problems with Aguila SSS Sub Sonic Sniper (and dont feed or function with .22 short so its hard to check if the short case or something else is the problem.

If a .22 long rifle semi-auto jams because it won't eject the longer Stinger case or if it won't eject the short Aquila SSS case you may have the same type of damage you get from the bolt trying to close after failure to eject with squib loads with bulk pack ammo.

Even SAAMI compliant ammo will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and guns vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and by wear from use. Sometimes the key to reliability is a match of brand and style of ammo to a specific gun, and what ammo works in your gun might might not work well in mine, and vice versa. Range or field testing of the gun with different brands is more important than user recommendation or maker advertisements.

CCI Stinger as a defense round? If positive and consistent ignition is a factor, Stinger rates high with me for consistently going Bang and going Bang with no squibs.

 

[Art Eatman]

The OP said "backup gun", so it's foolish to knock the .22 as a defensive weapon. It beats a loud scream, even when it's not the first choice. You use what's available, what's already on hand.

"Self defense" to me is pretty much close-range, so group size isn't particularly important. We're talking minute-of-head or minute-of-torso on Bad Guys, not head shots on squirrels.

Odds are, most any high-speed hollow-point will work as well as any other. I'd figure on needing more than one shot, regardless. In the FWIW department, I was surprised by the size of the exit wound on a rock squirrel from using QuickShock. A bunch of insides wound up outside. (QuikShok? I never can remember. )