CCW gun in car type situation?

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Im far from CCW in Oregon..Well i have my first pistol class next week "Its a start anyway" .Im curious if i was to get my carry permit and lets say for what ever reason i put my gun in my car and lets say go to work for the day .If somebody was to steal my car and the gun is in it ..What happens if they use the gun in a crime etc..Im thinking of getting a carry permit but there is everday situation where i cant carry "Including work" but i dont want to put it in car if thats a bad idea..Sorry the question is so basic but i honestly dont know the answere
 
That is the problem with leaving the gun in the car but even if they just break into the car they can get it too. You'd probably get a long lecture from the police and might never get the gun back. The worst place to put it is in the glove compartment - the first place they will look. You could get a lock box for the gun.
 
I personally would not leave a CCW gun in a car when I'm not around it. You could get a lock box for it and there are some that bolt to the car body and wil provide some measure of security. Some of these boxes are concealable, so that may be a viable option. Whether or not that may relieve you of any liability is probably a legal issue. Check with the class instructor or an attorney.

One of the ideas behind CCW (at least to me) is that nobody is supposed toknow that your are carrying. A lot of that depends on what particular pistol or revolver you choose to carry. Some conceal better that others.

Depending on the situation you are in, at least in terms of clothing, may dictate where on your body you will carry. Ankle holsters may work if you don't wear shorts; a fanny pack may work if you wear tighter fitting clothing like jeans and a t-shirt.

Of course if your employer has strict rules about prohibiting weapons on the premises, you may have to abide by what they say. Private companies can make enforcable rules about employees carrying weapons so think it carefully through before you pack inside the office!
 
I keep one in my car every day. When I'm at home car is in the garage. When I'm at work, in the private parking lot, gun is in car. If I go to a mall or whatever and don't want to take gun with me then it is in car. I keep it on the floor in the front seat in a pocket holster in a stocking hat or under a rag. If someone breaks into my car or steals my car they are the ones breaking the law. I don't worry about it. If someone steals my gun then I'm out a couple hundred bucks. I'm not telling you to follow my lead. You have to live with what you're comfortable with.
 
Drive a peice of ****, or a mechanicly sound vehicle that looks like ****. No one looks twice at any of my cars. My fastest car looks the worse, my nicest looking car is gonna get parted out and crushed. Kinda weird now that I think about it...
 
Some people have real heartburn about leaving a gun in a parked car. In Texas, if you go to a place of business that prohibits concealed carry you are required to leave it in your car. As long as you leave it concealed in the car, and lock the car like any reasonable person would, you have met your legal responsibility. However, I can't say the same for some ultra liberal states like California, or even perhaps Oregon (how liberal is Oregon anyway?).

I work in a building that prohibits the carrying of weapons (federal offices, courts, etc.). I leave my gun locked in my car every day.

I guess it depends on the state you are in. I suppose in some places you could probably be charged with the crime that the fool committed with your gun.

My suggestion is you ask you CCW instructor. You really need to know the law in your state.

In Texas I'm not so worried. But anytime someone is riding with me, and I stop somewhere with my gun in my glove compartment, I make real sure they lock their door.

Edited to add: I also drive a mechanically sound piece of s***. Don't need a car payment, it would interfere too much with my ability to buy guns.
 
Check packing.org for your state laws - here in NV any weapons in the vehicle are legal as there's no state law that even pertains to it (there are local laws against it in a couple of places). No one likes to leave a nice CCW gun in the vehicle but sometimes you either have to or carry where you know you're not supposed to. I'll leave the gun hidden in my truck rather than lose my CCW, but that's just me. :)

If your vehicle gets stolen be sure to report the gun so it doesn't come back on you.
 
I have a dedicated car gun in all my vehicles(3). Each vehicle has a lock box that I had made in a metal fabrication shop to fit that vehicle. Each vehicle has an alarm or switch that disables the vehicle when unattended. I'm not so much concerned about the liability issue as losing a weapon to some creep.
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http://www.indystar.com/articles/4/120101-2874-009.html

by Michele McNeil Solida
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February 12, 2004



Indiana lawmakers want to grant gun owners almost complete protection from lawsuits -- an effort that has alarmed national safety groups and local advocates who say Hoosiers should be held responsible if they don't take reasonable steps to safeguard their weapons.

House Bill 1349, which is expected to be considered today in a Senate committee, would give Indiana the most sweeping gun immunity law in the country, according to the Washington-based Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

That doesn't bother Sen. Robert Meeks.

"Great. We need to be on the cutting edge," said Meeks, R-LaGrange, who is sponsoring the bill in the Senate. He said gun owners -- who have taken out more than 300,000 permits in Indiana -- are responsible people and deserve the legislative protection because they already take care of their weapons.

The proposal, which passed the House overwhelmingly, wouldn't affect state laws involving criminal prosecution. It would, however, effectively eliminate most lawsuits involving guns.

This legislation seeks to undo an April 2003 Indiana Supreme Court decision in which the five justices unanimously said gun owners must safely store their firearms or could be held liable for failing to do so.

Under HB 1349, only gun owners who give their gun to someone else -- and know that the person is going to commit a crime with it -- can be held liable.

"To say that anyone who irresponsibly handles a gun is not liable -- we've never seen that before," said Daniel Vice, an attorney with the Brady Center. "The bill says to feel free to leave your unlocked and loaded gun out on the table when the kids are over because you won't be liable."

In addition to providing broad immunity to gun owners, the legislation could help the gun industry fight a pending legal challenge.

Meeks plans to ask the Senate Criminal, Civil and Public Policy Committee to add a proposal that would halt the city of Gary's lawsuit against gun manufacturers and dealers.

This would undo another Indiana Supreme Court ruling from December. Then, the court unanimously gave the go-ahead so Gary could sue gun dealers and distributors over claims that they sold handguns they knew would end up in the hands of criminals.

After the city filed its lawsuit in 1999, the General Assembly voted in 2000 to ban lawsuits by other municipalities in the state. Meeks wants to make that ban retroactive and stop the Gary lawsuit.

The gun proposals are tucked into legislation that seeks to cut down on lawsuits by prison inmates. The broad civil immunity proposal was inserted into that legislation during a late-night session of the House last week, and the bill passed that chamber 77-4.

"If you own a gun and someone comes in and takes it without your knowledge, then you should have immunity from civil lawsuits," said Rep. Michael Murphy, R-Indianapolis, the sponsor of the gun immunity proposal in the House.

He said the Supreme Court overstepped its bounds in April in ruling that gun owners need to take steps to safeguard their guns or be held liable.

Locking the doors to your house should be good enough -- but it's not anymore, Murphy said.

Don Heckdisagrees. His son Eryk, an Allen County sheriff's deputy, was killed in 1997 by Timothy Stoffer, a convicted felon. The Indiana Supreme Court ruling lawmakers are trying to undo came in Heck's lawsuit.

Stoffer took the gun from his parents. Heck sued on behalf of his son, arguing that Stoffer's parents knew their son was fleeing police and should have safeguarded their gun. The gun was kept in an armchair in a bedroom, according to court documents.

"There should be no excuses. I have a gun and I keep it locked up," Heck said. "You don't leave it lying out in your living room."

In their decision from that case, the Supreme Court justices acknowledged the right to carry a gun but said that must be balanced with the duty to keep it safe.

And states should have policies to make gun owners liable if they're reckless with their guns, argues Heather McCabe, executive director of the Indiana Partnership to Prevent Firearm Violence.

She said doing otherwise sends the wrong signal: "You want to send a message that you need to be responsible with your gun."
 
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