Lupinus
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Sucky as it may be you have to go by it since it is their private property just like you can't carry into a building which prohibits it. It sucks big time but that's life unfortunatly with the world we live in.
CCW on Greyhound
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carebear- Just like at the airport, firearms being transported in secure containers may be carried in. I'm talking about CARRYING a gun, as in, concealed carry... you know... shoot bad guys. That is prohibited by FEDERAL LAW and has nothing to do with Greyhound being anti-gun. It's the law. Same with the train if it crosses state line. Any interstate public transportation is off limits for concealed carry.
States can regulate concealed carry on intrastate buses. I know that Arizona used to prohibit carry on city buses but I don't know if that's still true. About 10 years ago I was in Phoenix on business and boarded a city bus with a sign on the door advising that no guns were allowed. I asked the driver if that worked in keeping crooks disarmed. He just laughed.
States can regulate concealed carry on intrastate buses. I know that Arizona used to prohibit carry on city buses but I don't know if that's still true. About 10 years ago I was in Phoenix on business and boarded a city bus with a sign on the door advising that no guns were allowed. I asked the driver if that worked in keeping crooks disarmed. He just laughed.
carebear
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I understand that thatguy. 
(alliteration, mmmmmmm)
I'm saying concealed carry, in an airport, outside of the security zone, is explicitly legal under Federal law. Airports are not by law prohibited places, the Fed's defer to State and Local law (and private airport policy) on that issue.
If it ain't posted, you can carry concealed. The USA doesn't care.
[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 49, Volume 8]
[Revised as of October 1, 2003]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 49CFR1540.111]
[Page 295]
TITLE 49--TRANSPORTATION
CHAPTER XII--TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY
PART 1540--CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY: GENERAL RULES--Table of Contents
Subpart B--Responsibilities of Passengers and Other Individuals and
Persons
Sec. 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals.
(a) On an individual's person or accessible property--prohibitions.
Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, an individual may
not have a weapon, explosive, or incendiary, on or about the
individual's person or accessible property--
(1) When performance has begun of the inspection of the individual's
person or accessible property before entering a sterile area, or before
boarding an aircraft for which screening is conducted under Sec.
1544.201 or Sec. 1546.201 of this chapter;
(2) When the individual is entering or in a sterile area; or
(3) When the individual is attempting to board or onboard an
aircraft for which screening is conducted under Sec. 1544.201 or Sec.
1546.201 of this chapter.
(b) On an individual's person or accessible property--permitted
carriage of a weapon. Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply as to
carriage of firearms and other weapons if the individual is one of the
following:
(1) Law enforcement personnel required to carry a firearm or other
weapons while in the performance of law enforcement duty at the airport.
(2) An individual authorized to carry a weapon in accordance with
Sec.Sec. 1544.219, 1544.221, 1544.223, or 1546.211 of this chapter.
(3) An individual authorized to carry a weapon in a sterile area
under a security program.
(c) In checked baggage. A passenger may not transport or offer for
transport in checked baggage:
(1) Any loaded firearm(s).
(2) Any unloaded firearm(s) unless--
(i) The passenger declares to the aircraft operator, either orally
or in writing, before checking the baggage, that the passenger has a
firearm in his or her bag and that it is unloaded;
(ii) The firearm is unloaded;
(iii) The firearm is carried in a hard-sided container; and
(iv) The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the
passenger retains the key or combination.
(3) Any unauthorized explosive or incendiary.
(d) Ammunition. This section does not prohibit the carriage of
ammunition in checked baggage or in the same container as a firearm.
Title 49 CFR part 175 provides additional requirements governing
carriage of ammunition on aircraft.
[67 FR 8353, Feb. 22, 2002, as amended at 67 FR 41639, June 19, 2002]
(alliteration, mmmmmmm)I'm saying concealed carry, in an airport, outside of the security zone, is explicitly legal under Federal law. Airports are not by law prohibited places, the Fed's defer to State and Local law (and private airport policy) on that issue.
If it ain't posted, you can carry concealed. The USA doesn't care.
[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 49, Volume 8]
[Revised as of October 1, 2003]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 49CFR1540.111]
[Page 295]
TITLE 49--TRANSPORTATION
CHAPTER XII--TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY
PART 1540--CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY: GENERAL RULES--Table of Contents
Subpart B--Responsibilities of Passengers and Other Individuals and
Persons
Sec. 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals.
(a) On an individual's person or accessible property--prohibitions.
Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, an individual may
not have a weapon, explosive, or incendiary, on or about the
individual's person or accessible property--
(1) When performance has begun of the inspection of the individual's
person or accessible property before entering a sterile area, or before
boarding an aircraft for which screening is conducted under Sec.
1544.201 or Sec. 1546.201 of this chapter;
(2) When the individual is entering or in a sterile area; or
(3) When the individual is attempting to board or onboard an
aircraft for which screening is conducted under Sec. 1544.201 or Sec.
1546.201 of this chapter.
(b) On an individual's person or accessible property--permitted
carriage of a weapon. Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply as to
carriage of firearms and other weapons if the individual is one of the
following:
(1) Law enforcement personnel required to carry a firearm or other
weapons while in the performance of law enforcement duty at the airport.
(2) An individual authorized to carry a weapon in accordance with
Sec.Sec. 1544.219, 1544.221, 1544.223, or 1546.211 of this chapter.
(3) An individual authorized to carry a weapon in a sterile area
under a security program.
(c) In checked baggage. A passenger may not transport or offer for
transport in checked baggage:
(1) Any loaded firearm(s).
(2) Any unloaded firearm(s) unless--
(i) The passenger declares to the aircraft operator, either orally
or in writing, before checking the baggage, that the passenger has a
firearm in his or her bag and that it is unloaded;
(ii) The firearm is unloaded;
(iii) The firearm is carried in a hard-sided container; and
(iv) The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the
passenger retains the key or combination.
(3) Any unauthorized explosive or incendiary.
(d) Ammunition. This section does not prohibit the carriage of
ammunition in checked baggage or in the same container as a firearm.
Title 49 CFR part 175 provides additional requirements governing
carriage of ammunition on aircraft.
[67 FR 8353, Feb. 22, 2002, as amended at 67 FR 41639, June 19, 2002]
rot13enatre said:
I've heard the same thing about carrying on a bus in Missouri. I think I read it over at Packing.org.......the jist I got was that it's a felony to carry on a bus in Missouri. Chalk up another reason to never ride a bus!
Standing Wolf
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I'd rather walk.
1) I don't think Nebraska allows anyone to CCW.
http://www.packing.org/state/nebraska
2) Missouri does have a weird law against carrying on a bus (class C felony).
http://www.packing.org/state/missouri/#stateoff_limits
http://www.packing.org/state/nebraska
2) Missouri does have a weird law against carrying on a bus (class C felony).
http://www.packing.org/state/missouri/#stateoff_limits
carebear
Member
I can understand why one might resort to extreme measures to get away from, say, Neosho Missouri. But is bus hijacking really such a problem?
gunsmith
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before 9/11/01
I went from florida to CA with a dissassembled handgun in my carry on even though I checked and they told me I couldn't.
When I asked the guy told me "you're not allowed to carry but we never check, you know what I mean?" you could practically hear the wink wink over the phone!
I went from florida to CA with a dissassembled handgun in my carry on even though I checked and they told me I couldn't.
When I asked the guy told me "you're not allowed to carry but we never check, you know what I mean?" you could practically hear the wink wink over the phone!
Planes, Train, Automobiles
It has been suggested that you fly. If that doesn't, well, fly, check out renting an automobile & driving it. Good weekly rates can be had, as well as old folks' & AAA discounts. Or you could ask for the corporate rate.
Also, you could rent one-way & drop off, twice. Think you can make the run in under 24 hours? What am I saying? You;re in college, of course you can.
It has been suggested that you fly. If that doesn't, well, fly, check out renting an automobile & driving it. Good weekly rates can be had, as well as old folks' & AAA discounts. Or you could ask for the corporate rate.
Also, you could rent one-way & drop off, twice. Think you can make the run in under 24 hours? What am I saying? You;re in college, of course you can.
countertop
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Fly Fly Fly
Ok,
Countertop is throwing on his travel agent hat again.
Orbitz is listing a flight on Monday December 19th from Omaha to Memphis - with 2 transfers - for $282 per person Departing at 8:00 am on Air Midwest, switching to Delta in Kansas City and then flying into Memphis from Atlanta on Northwest at 5:27
Not ideal, but still faster (a lot faster) than Greyhound.
The other option is to Fly into Little Rock (its only 130 miles on a major interstate highway from Memphis) and you can get a flight on Orbitz for $156 (complete with fees, etc) leaving Omaha at 7:45 or 10:28 and arriving in Little Rock at 2:13 or 6:15 respectively.
If you are willing to fly Southwest - you can get a $139 Fun Fare that departs Omaha at 8:45 and arrives at Little Rock at 1:45 pm. Thats what I would do and have your brother drive out to pick you up. Or, if cost is really a concern, fly Southwest into Nashville (just under 3 hours from Memphis) with an Internet One Way fare of $89.
Ok,
Countertop is throwing on his travel agent hat again.
Orbitz is listing a flight on Monday December 19th from Omaha to Memphis - with 2 transfers - for $282 per person Departing at 8:00 am on Air Midwest, switching to Delta in Kansas City and then flying into Memphis from Atlanta on Northwest at 5:27
Not ideal, but still faster (a lot faster) than Greyhound.
The other option is to Fly into Little Rock (its only 130 miles on a major interstate highway from Memphis) and you can get a flight on Orbitz for $156 (complete with fees, etc) leaving Omaha at 7:45 or 10:28 and arriving in Little Rock at 2:13 or 6:15 respectively.
If you are willing to fly Southwest - you can get a $139 Fun Fare that departs Omaha at 8:45 and arrives at Little Rock at 1:45 pm. Thats what I would do and have your brother drive out to pick you up. Or, if cost is really a concern, fly Southwest into Nashville (just under 3 hours from Memphis) with an Internet One Way fare of $89.
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