Century Made Yugo M70AB2 - issues?
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US Barrels are a good thing. The Yugo kits were imported mostly with sewer-pipe barrels. The were not chrome lined and were used during the war with corrosive ammo. Even if the US barrels are not chrome lined, you're still getting a new bore.
rbernie
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Does it say Century on it? Do they build it rather that import it? Run away, run away!
Once upon a time, I bought (sight-unseen) a Mauser action built/reworked by the angry beavers at Century Arms International into a commercial sporter. Long story short, damned if those idjits didn't screw the barrel into the receiver crooked. Seriously. The receiver was a loss, the barrel was a loss, the stock was worthless anyway, and about the only thing worth saving out of the whole mess was the bolt. That was a $185 lesson in CAI gunsmithing prowess and quality control.
Dunno how badly they can screw up an AK design, but if anyone can it'll be them.
Once upon a time, I bought (sight-unseen) a Mauser action built/reworked by the angry beavers at Century Arms International into a commercial sporter. Long story short, damned if those idjits didn't screw the barrel into the receiver crooked. Seriously. The receiver was a loss, the barrel was a loss, the stock was worthless anyway, and about the only thing worth saving out of the whole mess was the bolt. That was a $185 lesson in CAI gunsmithing prowess and quality control.
Dunno how badly they can screw up an AK design, but if anyone can it'll be them.
Carl N. Brown
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I took a chance on Century's M70AB2
Our CIA Yugo underfolders finally arrived yesterday after months
of anticipation. To make a long story long:
My son, two cousins, and a ATV riding buddy dropped by a local gun
shop in January and saw a Yugo underfolder. One cousin is a pure
military buff--AKs, ARs, Ruger Minis (yeah I know), P38s, etc.
He owned several AKs over the years and thought these looked
really good.
My son will buy stuff like Austrian Army cigarette lighters because
he thinks that stuff is cool. He loves looking at how other people
solve problems. The accessories kit intrigued him. I think he would
have bought the accessories kit without the rifle.
He was going to order one for himself and one as a surprise for me.
Not quite a surprise, because he knew the guns were a Century
International Arms build, and wanted my opinion first. Not being
a big AK expert (more of an ex-spurt, has been-big drip) I turned
to sources like THR
where I find opinions worth listening to.
Weighing all advice, I concurred with the order.
They were backordered. In the meantime, I found a dealer at a gun
show who had the CIA Yugo underfolders with accessories kit.
Over $600.00. Every phone call to our dealer was the same: CIA says
they are on backorder.
They came in yesterday 15 March. Finally. At price quoted in January.
Supposedly the last of the last eight hundred made by CIA. (I hate to
start a rumor that might not be true, but that was what I was told
for whatever it is worth.)
The gun is a Yugo M70AB2 on a Dan Coonan Industries (DCI) stamped
receiver (1.5 or 1.6mm thick RPK type, not the usual 1mm light AK
type). Heavy. Finish is a new parkerized grey style finish. Minor
dents or dings on the furniture. Metal finish is what I expect in
a new military issue.
The USA made parts count is the responsibility of the builder; since
CIA did the build (and I would not attempt a slingshot build by myself),
I do not know the USA parts count past the receiver and barrel.
The grenade sight appears to cut off the gas when the sight is raised.
In the lowered position, it shields the gas piston from external damage.
The flip up front sight has a white dot for low visibility. The two
dots on the rear flip up sight are finished over but may have contained
glo-in-the-dark material when new (you can degrease and add white paint).
The block that holds the pivot for the folding stock is solid at the
rear precluding mounting a fixed stock (but why buy an underfolder
if you want a fixed stock?)
The accessories kit includes:
- one Yugo magazine with last-shot hold-open follower;
- one typical aftermarket magazine with standard follower;
- leather sling;
- oil bottle;
- cleaning kit: metal tube containing slot tip, chamber brush, screwdriver;
- bayonet with woodsaw back and sheath that makes a wire cutter;
- belt pouch with pockets for oil bottle, cleaning kit and three magazines.
Price: 469.00 plus sales tax plus 10.00 background check. Same retail price
quoted us in January; from other sources, CIA wholesales them at 420.00.
First Range session today, shooting at 75 yards, Once I realized the
battle sight zer was too high and the 100 m was too low, I put my last
six shoots (with 200 m setting) in 3 1/4 x 2 inxhes at 75 yards. With
my eyesight, shooting a group smaller than the width if the sight blade
is good. Ammo was Finnish 1973.
My only complaint is that the sharp corners on the rear of the receiver
could have been rounded, but I do not know if an original Yugo would
have sharp or "melted" corners.
"Build" and "melt": I have picked up a lot of lingo, I hope I am using
it correctly .
------------------------------------------------------------
Part of the antipathy I have heard toward both SOG (Southern Ohio Gun)
and CIA (Century International Arms) is that, if you adopt an acronym
similar to Special Operations Group, Studies and Observations Group, or
Central Intelligence Agency , you had better toe the line 24/7/365
and 366 on leap years. Both SOG and CIA have had their SNAFUS over the
years. My Yugo M70AB2 appears to be a new leaf for CIA.
Our CIA Yugo underfolders finally arrived yesterday after months
of anticipation. To make a long story long:
My son, two cousins, and a ATV riding buddy dropped by a local gun
shop in January and saw a Yugo underfolder. One cousin is a pure
military buff--AKs, ARs, Ruger Minis (yeah I know), P38s, etc.
He owned several AKs over the years and thought these looked
really good.
My son will buy stuff like Austrian Army cigarette lighters because
he thinks that stuff is cool. He loves looking at how other people
solve problems. The accessories kit intrigued him. I think he would
have bought the accessories kit without the rifle.
He was going to order one for himself and one as a surprise for me.
Not quite a surprise, because he knew the guns were a Century
International Arms build, and wanted my opinion first. Not being
a big AK expert (more of an ex-spurt, has been-big drip) I turned
to sources like THR
where I find opinions worth listening to.Weighing all advice, I concurred with the order.
They were backordered. In the meantime, I found a dealer at a gun
show who had the CIA Yugo underfolders with accessories kit.
Over $600.00. Every phone call to our dealer was the same: CIA says
they are on backorder.
They came in yesterday 15 March. Finally. At price quoted in January.
Supposedly the last of the last eight hundred made by CIA. (I hate to
start a rumor that might not be true, but that was what I was told
for whatever it is worth.)
The gun is a Yugo M70AB2 on a Dan Coonan Industries (DCI) stamped
receiver (1.5 or 1.6mm thick RPK type, not the usual 1mm light AK
type). Heavy. Finish is a new parkerized grey style finish. Minor
dents or dings on the furniture. Metal finish is what I expect in
a new military issue.
The USA made parts count is the responsibility of the builder; since
CIA did the build (and I would not attempt a slingshot build by myself),
I do not know the USA parts count past the receiver and barrel.
The grenade sight appears to cut off the gas when the sight is raised.
In the lowered position, it shields the gas piston from external damage.
The flip up front sight has a white dot for low visibility. The two
dots on the rear flip up sight are finished over but may have contained
glo-in-the-dark material when new (you can degrease and add white paint).
The block that holds the pivot for the folding stock is solid at the
rear precluding mounting a fixed stock (but why buy an underfolder
if you want a fixed stock?)
The accessories kit includes:
- one Yugo magazine with last-shot hold-open follower;
- one typical aftermarket magazine with standard follower;
- leather sling;
- oil bottle;
- cleaning kit: metal tube containing slot tip, chamber brush, screwdriver;
- bayonet with woodsaw back and sheath that makes a wire cutter;
- belt pouch with pockets for oil bottle, cleaning kit and three magazines.
Price: 469.00 plus sales tax plus 10.00 background check. Same retail price
quoted us in January; from other sources, CIA wholesales them at 420.00.
First Range session today, shooting at 75 yards, Once I realized the
battle sight zer was too high and the 100 m was too low, I put my last
six shoots (with 200 m setting) in 3 1/4 x 2 inxhes at 75 yards. With
my eyesight, shooting a group smaller than the width if the sight blade
is good. Ammo was Finnish 1973.
My only complaint is that the sharp corners on the rear of the receiver
could have been rounded, but I do not know if an original Yugo would
have sharp or "melted" corners.
"Build" and "melt": I have picked up a lot of lingo, I hope I am using
it correctly
.------------------------------------------------------------
Part of the antipathy I have heard toward both SOG (Southern Ohio Gun)
and CIA (Century International Arms) is that, if you adopt an acronym
similar to Special Operations Group, Studies and Observations Group, or
Central Intelligence Agency
, you had better toe the line 24/7/365 and 366 on leap years. Both SOG and CIA have had their SNAFUS over the
years. My Yugo M70AB2 appears to be a new leaf for CIA.
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