jdmb03
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Thanks for the report. My Underwood 250gr. JHP came in. I also ordered a rig from Simply Rugged.
Thanks for the report. My Underwood 250gr. JHP came in. I also ordered a rig from Simply Rugged.
That little Bulldog kicks, doesn't it?. With standard loads, my 44 Special Bulldog has all the recoil I want.
Hey thats MOB (Minute of Badguy) in any REAL self defense scenario that accuracy will suffice, its a .45 freakin Colt! Alot of graves are filled with non HP bullets fired out of those old guns. I would practice alot and even see if you could take a revolver training class and take it along.Shot it for the 1st time finally. Put about 100 rounds through it, most were my old 250gr handload that were a bit spicy for the pitbull. Could feel it in the web of my hand pretty good.
Also shot 20 of the Winchester PDX1 225gr loads, these felt much better and are what I plan on leaving in it.
This is my 1st 10 shots of the PDX1's. The one way low was making sure it didn't shoot way high (over my backstop). The black circle is 6", all in single action and standing. Shoots point of aim at 10 yards, no need to compensate or hold over/under. Looks like I need to work on my grip a bit. Consistent though.
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Overall I am happy with it. Feels good and shoots good.
Nice, have you shot it yet? I have a simply rugged for my 686, nice setup.
The deal with a DA/SA revolver is compared to a subcompact pistol, accuracy should be better with the revolver due to that light SA pull. If you need to take a shot at a greater distance, you want the revolver to be accurate and having oversized throats isn't helping make it more accurate.Hey thats MOB (Minute of Badguy) in any REAL self defense scenario that accuracy will suffice, its a .45 freakin Colt! Alot of graves are filled with non HP bullets fired out of those old guns. I would practice alot and even see if you could take a revolver training class and take it along.
The gun he has is not a target revolver and if it was I would not use a .45 Colt, the gun has acceptable accuracy for self defense which is the intended function at 10 yards with that group would put down an assailant.The deal with a DA/SA revolver is compared to a subcompact pistol, accuracy should be better with the revolver due to that light SA pull. If you need to take a shot at a greater distance, you want the revolver to be accurate and having oversized throats isn't helping make it more accurate.
Fully agree with you on .45 Colt hollow points. I've read that 800 fps is the low end of expansion for .45 Colt HP's, but I don't feel that they're necessary for getting manstopping results. I've found a guy who casts 250 grain full wadcutters for .45 Colt and whether they're shot from a 2 inch derringer or a 16 inch lever rifle, the velocity at which the bullet hits the target doesn't matter, it's going to hit it hard and it won't have cost a buck a round or fail to expand.
Not saying that the factory HP .45 Colt ammo out there is bad, if anything, I find that .45 Colt factory defense ammo is among the most consistent performing ammo for a cartridge out there. From Buffalo Bore, to CCI/Federal/Speer, Winchester, Hornady and others, .45 Colt HP ammo works exceptionally well, but you're going to pay a lot for it cuz it's not 9mm or .38 Special.
I hope he never has to shoot more than 10 yards away with it.The gun he has is not a target revolver and if it was I would not use a .45 Colt, the gun has acceptable accuracy for self defense which is the intended function at 10 yards with that group would put down an assailant.
Statistically speaking he is not going to have to shoot a person in general, let alone the fact that I mentioned he should get some training with it.I hope he never has to shoot more than 10 yards away with it.
Who said it'd be a person? The .45 is a good big animal defense gun. If I had to shoot a charging animal, I'd much rather try to stop him when he's 20 yards away then if he were within a few feet.Statistically speaking he is not going to have to shoot a person in general, let alone the fact that I mentioned he should get some training with it.
That would make a great backup to my Levergun and Ruger S.A. revolver in 45 Colt for woods carry.
The gun is showing acceptable accuracy, so whats your issue? It has oversized throats? ok well he shot fine.Who said it'd be a person? The .45 is a good big animal defense gun. If I had to shoot a charging animal, I'd much rather try to stop him when he's 20 yards away then if he were within a few feet.
The gun is showing acceptable accuracy, so whats your issue? It has oversized throats? ok well he shot fine.
I know Smith and Ruger have made oversized throats, and even undersized in some cases. Ive had a model 25-3 in .45 colt with the throats measuring .457Colt, S&W, Ruger, they all made revolvers with oversized throats.
It's beyond that, the revolver shows subpar quality. If we don't push Charter to do better, this will become accepted and they'll never get better.The gun is showing acceptable accuracy, so whats your issue? It has oversized throats? ok well he shot fine.
A DA/SA revolver with adjustable sights and a longer barrel perhaps, again this is not in that same realm, by that same notion I can say that a micro .380 is also capable of longer range shots there are people who have made those kinds of shots but not for defense. This gun is self defense tool and thats pretty much it, its not a target gun, its not a hunting weapon.It's beyond that, the revolver shows subpar quality. If we don't push Charter to do better, this will become accepted and they'll never get better.
I like Charter Arms, I like several of their revolvers, but when they sell somebody what the OP was sold, it irks me. What irks me more is when somebody pulls out the uber close range argument. I can accept that when talking about an NAA or a micro .380, but a DA/SA revolver has a lot more potential than 10 yards max distance.