GoldenHound said:
"Are these people really this stupid, or is this all some kind of big game? I mean, really, has anyone ever tried sitting down with these people and explaining to them how illogical all of their goals are? Has anyone ever presented them with real statistics showing how few "military-style assault weapons" are actually used in crimes? If I were to do this, how would they react? Would they insist that I was lying?"
1st, a lot of them are that stupid. The rest are just blind mantra chanters who need a cause to wring their hands over.
2nd, you should spend some time on Paul Helmke's (which is OWNED by pro-gunners) blog on Huffington post. This very report is being discussed right now, but we haven't heard anything from the other side yet. The other anti-gun blogs on Huffpo are usually even funnier. A lot of these people are not playing with a full deck. You wouldn't believe some of the things they write.
3rd, we regularly bombard them with stats from the FBI, ATF, DOJ, and other sources regarding how few rifles OF ANY KIND are used in crime. They ignore us in favor of tainted, Joyce Foundation-funded stats, and nonsense like the oft debunked Kellerman study.
There is one poster over there (shedances, aka Kelli) who may accuse you of lying, but when you ask her to cite an example, she'll refuse, like it's beneath her. Or, she'll waive the 'off-topic' flag. As a matter of fact, a couple of us have offered to contribute $500 to the Brady Campaign if she could back up just one of her accusations. One guy offered a contribution, and said he would cut up one of his guns with a torch, and put it on Youtube, if she would provide an example of any of us having lied about anything. She still hasn't taken us up on it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-helmke/when-a-school-shooter-see_b_153194.html
Have fun!
As someone stated earlier, they are not about controling violence, or crime. They are about control, period. They are elitist socialists, whether they realize it or not.
They are also against punishing criminals sufficiently, as they are more concerned about prison overcrowding than public safety.