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Sorry if this is a repeat question. From watching the video last night, this freak seemed to have equipped himself with a lot of forethought and research. Since his room-mates had no idea he was into guns, I can't imagne he was sitting around reading G&A in the dorm all the time, so where did he get his knowledge?

I'm guessing he might have been a denizen of the mall-ninja kinds of forums, or at least got most of his knowledge through the web. Has anyone started looking around Glocktalk or other boards to see if he was a regular?

Just curiosity.
 
He used a .22. I don't think he was researching any gun forums. Because if he had, he would have known that a .45 or 10mm would blow a persons limbs clean off.
 
Owning two guns does not equate with "into guns"

He had a job to do and chose the tools he felt were necessary to accomplish his goals
Probably basing his decision on name recognition
 
Thats part of what I don't get; if your sole intent was to go on a rampage, wouldn't you get two of the same guns? or at least the same caliber? This was one seriously disturbed, miserable bastard, but the gear he was wearing looked like it was well thought out, and he apprently knew how to change magazines quickly, under pressure, which requires practice, especially if you have two types of magazines to deal with.
 
I did wonder this too. An introvert w/ full generational disposition and access to use computers. Ordered his first gun from an out of state dealer and had it sent to an FFL pawn shop, the .22, and then went to buy the G19. I'm sure he looked some stuff up online, and may have visited some forums.

I recently became active in shooting, and bought my first gun a couple months ago. After going to a gun store, I looked up some of the models I was interested in, and found some comparison threads referencing those models, which brought me to THR, and other forums.

He would have done whatever he wanted to do regardless of what he used, or where he learned about it, no doubt. But the thought did cross my mind.

Pisses me off any time someone uses anyone or anything to harm someone else, but it happens all the time. Everyone that has ever done anything bad did not get to the point where he executed it alone, using ideas and knowledge gained from their life experience and those they came across along the way.

Karz
 
Also keep in mind that one doesn't have to participate in a forum to glean knowledge from it, in most instances. I could give you practical instructions on how to make a explosive device in 5 minutes from various open forums that I'm not a member of and have only breezed by. Tools like Usenet and IRC can give one access to tons of information while maintaining relative anonimity. Even your public library can offer a basic level of knowledge enough for one to build off of on their own. IMO, it's premature to link Cho to any one potential source of information. For all we know, he just watched too many movies.
 
GROMULIN - "Thats part of what I don't get; if your sole intent was to go on a rampage, wouldn't you get two of the same guns?"

You -- and many others -- are making the usual mistake of trying to attribute thinking to a MENTALLY DISTRUBED person, that would mirror your's. Otherwords, as a rational, reasonable person, YOU would not do what a mentally disturbed person would do, so why would he do it???

Honest citizens find it hard to understand why criminals do what they do, because the honest citizen would not do them.

So, I suggest you do NOT try to solve the question as to why that murderous P.O.S. did at Virginia Tech, what he did, by saying that YOU would not have done it that way, but another way. It doesn't "compute."

L.W.
 
and he apprently knew how to change magazines quickly, under pressure, which requires practice
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Don't know if we know that. I read one quote from a witness which something to the effect that he would stop sometimes for a minute or more and change magazines. I am not trying to add to internet rumor and speculation, but he may not necessarily have been proficient with firearms. It more likely was that he was the only one armed, actively shooting, and dealing with others who were trying to run or hide rather than attacking him and fighting him.
 
Good points, all. And yes, I agree that a sane mind can't think like a deranged one, and taking head-shots at point blank range does not require a whole lot of practice. Sick bastard.
 
Looking at the way he was holding the firearms in the pictures they released last night and knowing now that he fashioned his "video manifesto" after some low-budget violent bloodbath movie, I would say he learned most of his firearms knowledge from the movies. It was obvious that he had no formal training, because it appeared that he violated every rule of safe gun handling there is.

As to why he had mis-matched guns. I would suppose that he got the .22 to practice with, utilizing cheap ammo and low recoil. Then purchased a 9mm to actually use in real life. Why did he choose 9mm? No idea. I would be interested to hear what firearms they used in that movie that he was supposedly fashioning his video after. Anyone see it?

It is obvious that this sociopath was sicker and more demented than anyone gave him credit for. My head hurts everytime I try to wrap it around the "whys" and "hows" of it.

Sick POS.

SC
 
He used a .22. I don't think he was researching any gun forums. Because if he had, he would have known that a .45 or 10mm would blow a persons limbs clean off.
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:D He probally chose the GLOCK because it was his favorite pistol in "Counter Strike".
 
If I were really, really cynical, I might say that he only had two guns because that is all his sponsors would pay for.

Jim
 
Is there anyone who thinks that changing the magazine ("clip" for the MSM crowd) is difficult?

Especially with a double stack, there isn't much to it, and just about anyone who is not a total luddite could figure it out in about 30 seconds.

As has been pointed out, he didn't seem to show any trigger discipline, and his stance is about what we would expect from someone who watches modern media, so why would anyone assume that he was a proficient firearms user?
 
As to why he had mis-matched guns. I would suppose that he got the .22 to practice with, utilizing cheap ammo and low recoil. Then purchased a 9mm to actually use in real life. Why did he choose 9mm? No idea. I would be interested to hear what firearms they used in that movie that he was supposedly fashioning his video after. Anyone see it?
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He bought the Glock first. The P22 was purchased shortly before the shooting.

My guess, he wanted two Glocks. But, when the time came he didn't have enough for another Glock, so he ended up with a P22. Other possibility is that he wanted a gun for each hand, and found that he couldn't shoot the Glock weak-handed.

As for why 9 mm, he probably asked for advice on a first gun, and ended with 9 mm because it's cheap and easier to shoot.
 
Actually, would the Walther be much, if any, cheaper than the G19?

Biker
 
He used a .22. I don't think he was researching any gun forums. Because if he had, he would have known that a .45 or 10mm would blow a persons limbs clean off.
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This is the most inaccurate, poorest taste thing I have heard said on these boards, congratulations.

Everyone knows if he was using a .45 there wouldn't be anything left of the entire BUILDING, and probably the entire area surrounding the campus.
 
Actually, would the Walther be much, if any, cheaper than the G19?
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P22s can be picked up for under $300 NIB ... an NIB G19 will set you back around $500



As for whether Cho hung around gun boards, I bet he did ... but so did GunKid, so what's your point?
 
P22s can be picked up for under $300 NIB ... an NIB G19 will set you back around $500
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Yep.

He paid $571 for his G19 at the store. If reports that he bought the P22 at a gun show are correct, the P22 would have been significantly cheaper.
 
Everyone knows if he was using a .45 there wouldn't be anything left of the entire BUILDING, and probably the entire area surrounding the campus.
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Only if he was using "dum dum" bullets. Or black talons.
 
For all we know, he could have bought the .22 as a backup gun incase something went wrong or he ran out of ammo for the 9mm, maybe it was a second gun to commit suicide. We don't really know. It's possible he visited gun forums but highly doubt it.
 
I was also wondering, this morning, if possibly Cho was a member of some of the gun forums out there, maybe this one, that I lurk in most often. Why does it matter? Just for the simple fact that it would be interesting to go back and read some of his posts.
 
MDAO - this article written today, states the Walther .22 was purchased from a pawn shop on February 9th and the Glock 9mm on March 12 from Roanoke Firearms.

This leaves one month for him practice and practice. However, mid-late February was nasty cold here, and there aren't too many indoor ranges.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/gun.laws/index.html

-SC
 
MDAO - this article written today, states the Walther .22 was purchased from a pawn shop on February 9th and the Glock 9mm on March 12 from Roanoke Firearms.
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Thanks for the correction. There goes my speculation.
 
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