City Folk move to country and find out people hunt there...and they don't like it.

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it's like a certain shooting range I belong to. This range has been there since my parent's time, and this developer started building HUGE homes around one side of the range property, and tried to get the range to close down.
The range was closed for over a year due to the legal battles with the ATF and local Gov't, but finally won and is now open again.

If you don't like something that was there before you, then YOU move. Don't try to change things that's been going on there since before your time ;)
 
I live in O'fallon Mo. My son started playing YMCA soccer last fall at the Y on highway K, just south of N.

There's still a farm field next to the Y and at one of our 8 AM soccer games last season, the warmups were interrupted briefly by the blast of several shotguns going off at once. Turns out there was a duck/goose blind with several guys hunting. They were 200-300 yards away and shooting away from the Y, but the sound of gunfire was evident, birds were falling from the sky, and dogs were retrieving them.

I was worried about what the "soccer mom" reaction was going to be. To their credit, I didn't see or hear of a single parent that was bothered. On the contrary, many thought it was interesting explaining to their kids what was happening. Didn't see a kid bothered by it either. They just shrugged and kept playing soccer.
 
A family friend that lives in Ellensburg, WA was telling me about how people are moving there from Seattle and calling in noise complaints to the sheriff about the farm equipment on the farms there.
Of course these are also the same people that still commute to Seattle every day and never figure out how to drive on snow or ice, making some interesting traffic situations on Snoqualmie Pass.
 
:evil:Similar to a story that was in the news lately about a group of Muslims that banded together and bought a tract of farm land somewhere in the midwest near a working farm, built a community and Mosque and then started complaining about the smell of the farm. The farmer converted his farm into a PIG farm!:evil:
 
It was 5 a.m., and she wasn't really awake yet. The shots went off somewhere beyond her home in the Sunset Ridge subdivision, a neighborhood off Caton Farm Road and south of Illinois 59.
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I bet she would never hear that living in Chicago.


One young mother of three who requested anonymity told a story about walking with her boys down their street, Parkside Drive. A few geese flew overhead, the hunters started shooting and to her horror, birds dropped from the sky. She immediately turned the kids around and went home.
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:D I wonder what she expected to happen? Did she go home and eat a Turkey sandwhich or she was put off her food?


No illegal activity
But officers from both departments say they've never discovered any injury or wrongdoing related to the hunting.
"As long as there is a 100-yard gap between where the hunters are hunting and people are living, no law is being violated," Joliet Deputy Police Chief Pat Kerr said. "If anyone has any damage of property by pellets, we haven't gotten any reports of it."
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That would be a trick, finding damage or injury. Bird shot at more than a hundred yards likely won't even break a window.


Time for change
She also has experienced the suburban vs. rural Will County culture clash. Children trespass on her property to see her horses. Unwanted old furniture, appliances, cars and even a boat have been dumped in different spots.
And a few weeks ago, someone vandalized a car parked near an old barn on her property. All the windows in the red Camaro were broken, and someone jumped on the car's roof. They poured gasoline around the inside of the barn, leaving the cans behind. Thankfully, they didn't start a fire.
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Something tells me this was not the hunters. :scrutiny:

But if the hunters and property owners are obeying the law, what's the problem? Wollgast wonders if it's unfamiliarity with the sport. "Some people have never been around hunting, and it frightens them. They fear for themselves and their kids," he said.
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Education, education and getting to know people. That is the key to overcoming fear. If you live in a rural community and you exclude new arrival (outsiders) or hide your activities from them than this is what you get.
 
Deer Crossing Sign

A guy at work told me this story about a woman from Duchess County (Rural lower NY County)

The woman called the town because she had a Deer crossing sign on the road next to her property. She told them "I want you to move the deer crossing sign because I don't want the deer crossing onto my property. Move the sign further up the road. They can cross there."

I wish this was a joke but some people are really this bad.
 
Never will forget the out of state guy who moved to an isolated place in WV. He built his huge house on the hillside, moved in and everything went well until the gas company pipeline checker came by and told him his house was on a 10" high pressure gas pipeline.

The pipeline folks lawyers looked in the debris piles and found the right of way markers that the guy had dozed over the hill. He lost his lawsuit against the pipeline company. The vacant house is still there, shrouded by brush and trees.
 
The woman called the town because she had a Deer crossing sign on the road next to her property. She told them "I want you to move the deer crossing sign because I don't want the deer crossing onto my property. Move the sign further up the road. They can cross there."
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I wonder if they move the sign to my place, I can get them to cross there... should make hunting season go much more smoothly.... :D
 
this is dumb.
I am from the city, jacksonville,
and if I moved to the country, or any rural area, country just doesn't sit right with me, I'd love it. My friend bought property out in a rural area, and asked us to come shoot there so he could maintain his open/rural zoning even if they built condos near by. (sad but true)
If I found bullets, pellets, or for some reason casings in my yard,
I'd say "cool!" and add it to the collection. I actually do find casing a lot, because I end up dropping them all over the place. I'm thinking of mulching a part of the yard in 7.62x54r empties. I've got enough of them.
 
Just last weekend my son and I went to a friends to try out a new revolver. We had 100 rds. and shot them all. It was almost dark so we had to shoot at a pretty steady pace to make sure we didn't have any ammo left (he he he). As we were leaving we were stopped by a neighbor. He asked if we knew that we were on a private road. I answered yes. He stated that there was a lot of shooting up the hill. I said "that was us". He started on a rant. I said " as far as I know I can drive up the road to see my buddy any time I want"
he agreed. When I got home I called my buddy and told him what was going on. He just laughed and said "funny how they moved out here to complain about the reason why I moved out here in the first place" then he asked "when you coming back?"
 
As BobMcG and others noted, this is clearly a case of a disconnect between cultures. It's not that people hate guns or hunters, necessarily. As the examples people have posted about pig farms demonstrate, anything that is outside of people's experience (and especially things that they don't understand) will put them off and lead them to complain.

I think a little perspective-taking is in order here. If all you had never seen a gun - much less shot one - and suddenly there were people all around you carrying and firing them, of course it's going to be a bit of a shock. (This is magnified, of course, by the negative images of guns that are commonly presented.) I'm not saying that it's right for people to get upset about something that's totally normal in an area that they have just moved to. I'm just saying that it's a natural human reaction to react negatively to something you don't understand. The cure for this is not getting on people's case - it's giving them some perspective. And, failing that, they'll get used to it after a while.
 
How long until we see an article about people from rural illinois moving to chicago and complaining about nightclubs like "The Man Hole". Or the trans sexual prostitutes a couple of blocks from lakeside. Or the purple haired crack hos walking the streets at 2am on Chicago's south side. Oh thats normal for Chicago??

These city trolls don't realize how much better life is the farther you get away from Chicago.

-T
 
It is a clash of cultures and definately a lot of ignorance of what your are getting yourself into.

Back to the lovely state of Washington. About an hour and a half from Seattle they built a second home development called Suncadia with 2 golf courses, lodge, etc... It is absolutely gorgeous, timber frame houses, old trees left in place, yards are left with natural vegitation and leaf litter, etc...

Well the nature loving folks who bought started feeding the deer and elk in this huge expanse of wild area that now had roads. The first woman that saw a calf elk being killed by a cougar in her driveway flipped out and wanted all the cougars killed and how could they be so close to people.

Well if the fillet mignon is being served in your front yard where do you expect the hungry people to show up???:neener:


Then there is the story about how inhumane and savage hunters are because a bull Elk was walking around the hood with an arrow stuck in its shoulder.

People just need to understand that people enjoy the bounty of nature differently. Everyone enjoys a sunrise, the hunter for its beauty, impending warmth, and visibility, the greener for its beauty, visibility, and photosynthesis.
 
The road goes both ways.

This term was used quite frequently with newcomers to my hometown. You see, they would enroll their children in our quaint little school (1A, smallest category of school. Graduating class was 42 kids), but only to learn that if their precious little billy didn't do his homework and talked back the teacher ("But he's taking his medication, arn't you, billy?"), little billy got a board to his backside. That's right, we still have Corperal Punishment at my old school and it is an absolute Godsend. They didn't like it, so these folks made protests and banners and tried to get people to sign a petetion.

Needless to say, the entire town basically said "****!", in more or less sylables. Simple as that. The road goes both ways.
 
This is nothing new. Same story in Lake County (IL) on the WI border along the Chain of Lakes where the waterfowlers hunt with their homemade blinds on the lakes. Most of the lakeshore is built up with expensive second homes for the city and burb dwellers.

Of all my time boating with my family and visiting my grandparents on the lake you mostly hear the locals complain about the annoyingly loud racing boats that dart across the lakes in the summer. No one seemed to mention anything about the goose and duck hunters and their muzzle reports.

The only few "issues" I've seen or heard about were a group of Lake Zurich farmers that were goose hunting in their fields, about 200 yards from the back of a new subdivision. The new neighbors seemed to tolerate it at first, but it all went south when shot pellets started to rain down in their backyards. Then it got ugly and I don't remember the rest.
 
We live in the English Lake District in a sleepy hamlet.We are from a hunting family and still hunt on a regular basis.Recently the older residents have passed away and there properties have been sold on the open market.Due to very high property prices in the area the local young cannot afford the property and have had to move to more affordable property in the towns and cities.In short we have nobody to pass our hunting,shooting traditions on to,we have a steady influx of city dwellers who buy the property as a weekend home.They genrally have no interest in the country or the wildlife that populates it,and shock horror if they see a man with a gun or even worse a dead animal or bird.
We have tried the obvious like,join us for a morning,or would you like some game for dinner.Alas not many takers but rather verbal abuse,is this a sign of the times or am I not living in the real world ?
 
Very true; I find that my cow wrestling expreiences have never ended with much satisfaction. They just sit there and moo, it's like grappling with a legged boulder. Just don't pin from underneath. It's a heavy legged boulder!

Nothing beats a chicken shoot.
 
Locally the Holladay Gun Club is getting ginormous pressure from residents in the new subdivisions that have sprung up around it. The road these McMansions are built on is even called GUN CLUB ROAD. Idiots.

On the flip-side I have experienced morons shooting irresponsibly. The worst episode was down near Needles Utah by Indian Creek. Some jacka** was shooting a .357 right down into the canyon where my wife and I were camping. We both yelled but he obviously couldn't hear us. I had to jump in the truck and drive up to where he was and yell at him in front of his kid.

I assume he was a recent urbanite 2a convert, otherwise he'd know better, right? ;)
 
funniest incident I can relate about newcomers somebody brought an old farmhouse right in the army training area at the back of folkstone in kent uk
its mostly tenanted farmland used for light infantry training and for northan Ireland training etc no Armour no live firing just blank.
theres signs all over the place army training area etc etc.
either they didn't notice or didn't care.
11pm Friday night battalion arrive in trucks at dropping off point householder comes out and rants. Unit shrugs disappear into night
about 4am sunday morning full scale attack goes in blank thunder flashes battle dems the works householder goes berserk runs into field at back of his house demanding it stops :D felt sorry for the bloke but it is an army training area not helped that his two young sons appear and think its the coolest thing ever :D
same bloke called the police about suspicious blokes charging around in high powered civilian cars turned out to be the SAS practicing covert stuff :eek:
house was on the market in less than a couple of months
 
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