City Folk move to country and find out people hunt there...and they don't like it.

[Red Dragon]

On the flipside of things, we have a lot of property (7 acres I believe but don't quote me on that) that is mostly wooded and all fenced in, we even have a shooting range set up in the back, and a couple of months ago, my father was walking the dogs (2 great danes, a bloodhound, and a bulldog) on the trail through the back of the property and some bowhunter with a treestand about 30ft outside of our property line started hooting and hollering at my father saying he had no right to be there and the dogs were going to scare off all the deer. My dad put him in his place saying "I own this property and I can do as I damn well please on it."

Sometimes, some hunters seem to think they can lay claim to all that is within eyeshot. I personally am not a fan of hunting and since I grew up in the upper penninsula of Michigan, most of my experience with hunters was from my classmates bragging on how they were going to bring a crapload of beer and liquor out with them while hunting. Alcohol and guns never should mix so I tended to avoid hunters up there. Something about someone with a loaded firearm saying, "hold my beer and watch this" just disturbs me.

I'm not saying all hunters are like that but that has just been my experience.

On another note, I live in farming country now and I hear gunshots all the time, (other than the ones I am making myself ) and it doesn't bother me in the least. I actually have heard more shots at night while filming in detroit than here so you would think some of the big city yuppies would already be used to the gunshots.

But the one thing that does tend to bother me from time to time is one of the propane cannons that one of the farmers behind my property uses. Not because of the regular bang it makes, though at times it does tend to get annoying at 3 o'clock in the morning, but because I think this thing is malfunctioning or something because occasionally there is a huge BOOM that actually shakes the windows in the house.

 

[RPCVYemen]

Lets see... you move into a new area and expect the people already living there, possibly for many generations, to change their ways and conform to your idea of how things should be? That's nothing new around here.

You're darn right! It's not not like we did anything like that to the native Americans. We fully respected their ways, and did not even think of asking them to conform.

After, all they had been living in the area for generations, and we deeply, deeply respected that.

The reality is that people migrate to new regions all the time, and the people who have lived in that region mostly don't like it.

Quit whining!

Mike

 

[Majic]

In one area on the east coast enough city folks moved in a rural area (breaking up of large family farms into individual plots means population boom) that they gained control of the local government. One of the first things they did was to outlaw hunting in that county. Bambi was too cute to be slaughtered. In a few years time the deer population had exploded so that the hungry deer were now munching on all the pretty professionally maintained lawns and shrubbery. Professional hunters were hired to curb the deer herds. Now deer that in the past created profits as hunting licences, gear, and ammo was bought on a yearly bases now has become a deficit as hunters are now paid to get rid of them. Yup, dem is some mighty smart city folk.

 

[RPCVYemen]

In one area on the east coast enough city folks moved in a rural area (breaking up of large family farms into individual plots means population boom) that they gained control of the local government... Yup, dem is some mighty smart city folk.

Them dang city folks paid high prices for land? They torture them poor innocent family farmer with piles of filthy lucre! String 'em up I say.

Then they wanted to vote? Where the hell do they think they live? America? Run them off!

If you don't run them off now, they'll start paying taxes and building schools and creating jobs and such.

Mike

 

[f4t9r]

send them back to the City and do not pass GO or give them a get out of jail free card. Oh and do not collect $200

 

[RPCVYemen]

Oh and do not collect $200.

That's the hard part.

Mike

 

[Bartkowski]

It's amazing what goes through some peoples heads. Like most of us said, if they don't like the way people live, either get over or move.

when do you plan to learn navajo?

And don't get me started on this one.

 

[crebralfix]

Just wait until they stand outside the front gate of the local range at 2 AM and shoot a round into the air. Then they'll call the cops about "shots fired" and try to close the range.

This actually happened here in Northern Virginia.

 

[BobMcG]

I'm not saying all hunters are like that...

You can bet your ass they aren't!

 

[BobMcG]

You're darn right! It's not not like we did anything like that to the native Americans. We fully respected their ways, and did not even think of asking them to conform.

After, all they had been living in the area for generations, and we deeply, deeply respected that.

The reality is that people migrate to new regions all the time, and the people who have lived in that region mostly don't like it.

Quit whining!

Mike

Quite whining?

I've got some news for you Mike. I am of Native descent and I spend a great deal of my time living as and celebrating the way of my ancestors throughout the year. I don't think I need you lecturing me about what the Europeans did to the Natives on this soil. You'd be surprised by my knowledge on the subject.

Quite frankly, your comparison is poor, not very well thought out and ridiculous at the very least.

 

[RioShooter]

This reminds me of a story I read about a rural community with similar problems. The local realtors published a brochure which explained country life to prospective home buyers from the city. This was after a new resident proposed at a town council meeting that farmers work only from 9 - 5, because the sound of their machinery disturbed her.

 

[Officers'Wife]

Oh, I have half a dozen stories on this subject. The only one relating to firearms was about nine years ago when my Dad was out riding in the pasture next to a brand new city people neighbor.

The neighbor climbed the fence (in the center not by a post with is a no-no grande) and informed Dad that he was not going to have him riding around with that "gun" (it was a rifle) "attached" to the saddle. He wasn't going to have to worry about some ***(add typical city people dumb stuff here) shooting in his neighborhood.

Dad leaned back in the saddle and agreed, that was the last of his worries and told the dog to put the guy back on his side of the fence. The next day there were hogs in that pasture with the self feeders upwind of the guy's house. Six months and three failed court cases later the guy sold out and moved back to Chicago where I'm sure he lived happily ever after.

Selena

 

[BobMcG]

An example.

What happened in my town not too many years ago was the making of a few new lots in the near proximity of the local range. Not long after, some new transplants bought, built and moved into their new homes there. They weren't "residents" long and a couple of them decided that the range should be shut down because they didn't like all that shooting going on so near-by. They not only lost their case, but they also made no friends around here. They were told in court in no uncertain terms that they were the newcomers whereas the range was almost a hundred years old and had a right to continue to exist and operate under a grandfather clause. On top of that, it was recognized that they knew full well the range was there before they even bought the empty lots and stared to build.

 

[ZeSpectre]

I'm reminded of the classic chapter of Peter Mahle's "a year in Provance" where the "city folk" move in near a farmer and then start complaining about his farm. Well the guy's rooster starts crowing at all hours and the neighbors complain but nothing can be done and finally they move back to the city... and the farmer has a rooster dinner the next night.

 

[Officers'Wife]

Hi ZeSpectre,

They move to the country to smell the roses, to get rid of them give them a whiff of the fertilizer used to grow the roses.

A wiser person than I once noted - people move to get away from the antics and abuses of the city then bring the city with them. In my short stay on the farm, three house next to the boundary lines have had a total of fifteen different families of city people. They complained about Dad's rifle range, about the dust from tillage, planting and harvest, herbicide smell and in one memorable case a cow that stared at them when they were in the yard.

Dads answer was always the same, my great great grandfather bought this place in 1868. If you don't like it tell the judge, but it was his Great great grandfather the old man bought it from.

Selena

 

[MarshallDodge]

When we moved to Utah a few years back it was in the fall. Our place is "in the country". One September morning we woke up to what sounded like WW2 in the distance. It took me a second to remember why and then I remembered it was the opening day of dove season. I rolled over and went back to sleep.

I could see how this is alarming for city folk cause I used to be one.....and I'm a gun owner! Still doesn't give them a right to complain about it.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

I'm a white bread suburban punk from the South Chicago suburbs. There are successful transplants to the sticks. I always was a gun nut however, and owned a pick-up before moving to the small town my wife is from that we are raising our children in. I will forvever be derided by my own wife as a 'city boy' regardless of my eagerness to assimilate and mesh with rural culture.
I'll always be the Auslander.

 

[ZeSpectre]

You know the irony for me is that (when I lived in Arlington) I just couldn't believe that it was AGAINST THE LAW for me to take my BB gun and shoot the rats that were living in the alley behind the resturant just down the lane.

Oh no, couldn't just take care of it myself, had to PLEAD with animal control to come out and when they did they chose to poison them... which caused them to crawl somewhere and die and STINK for the next week!

I guess what I'm sayin' is it can be hard for country folk to adapt to the city as well <shrug>.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Yeah, because all city folk are bad... this thread is really pathetic. Some of you country folk remind me of the anti-culture zombies from The Omega Man. "Culture bad, must purge".

Sometimes, some hunters seem to think they can lay claim to all that is within eyeshot.

Yep, that's my experience. My family has a cabin in the Finger Lakes and every fall the hunters keep encroaching on our property. I was always angry that I couldn't take a stroll in the woods (along the Finger Lakes Trail) during my youth because the hunters would generally blast anything that moved. I don't have a HUGE problem with hunting, it's more or less with a portion of the hunting population that seems to have the attitude mentioned in the quote above.

Since support of hunting != support of 2A, I find the whole post a little pointless. Plenty of urbanites own guns, myself included, but I can understand people having fears about careless or disrespectful hunters. Given the general me-first attitude of most sportsmen today, I wouldn't be surprised if it exhibited itself in the hunting arena.

 

[bluestarlizzard]

i have more issues with the developers then the people who actually move out here (albermarle county VA). my mom lives about 10 minutes from scottsville (talk about the boonys) and part of the reason she moved there 10 years ago was because the neighbors across the street moooed. yeah sure they got a little stinky in the summer, but no biggy. then the developers came in (despite protests) and built a bunch of McMansions. the promlem is that the c-ville area has a bit of a housing glut right now. so now instead of walking the dog along the road, enjoying the cows early morning antics, they see a bunch of (kinda ugly) houses.
a friend of my dads also has trouble with a next door neighbor who calls the cops everytime they are out on their range.

 

[bluestarlizzard]

prince yamota, i have lived out in these boonys my whole life and i love them. we don't hunt and we don't really want hunters on our land so WE POST SIGNS. we have never had any trouble. if you don't want to get shot during hunting season, get a blaze orange vest, cause geuss what? last time i looked deer don't wear blaze orange.

 

[Prince Yamato]

We didn't live there year-round. And we most certainly had signs. Our place even got broken into a couple of times. My whole issue was people IGNORING the signs. Which seems to be a more regular occurrence. Again, I don't have a problem with hunting, but if you choose to be a poor sportsman, which I feel a percentage of the hunting population does, then I can see how others may want to restrict your ability to practice your sport.

 

[Titan6]

but if you choose to be a poor sportsman, which I feel a percentage of the hunting population does, then I can see how others may want to restrict your ability to practice your sport.

*Sigh*

 

[Regolith]

Yeah, because all city folk are bad... this thread is really pathetic. Some of you country folk remind me of the anti-culture zombies from The Omega Man. "Culture bad, must purge".

No, this thread is a rant against specific folks who come out to rural areas and then expect the people who already live there to accomodate THEM. No where in this thread have I seen the statement that "all city people are bad." Get over yourself.

Also, since when does people complaining about people who want to end hunting, or shooting at the range, which has been going on in that area for generations, equal to xenophobia? They aren't saying they don't want city people to move out there, they are complaining about when city people move out there and then try to change everything.

I have also not seen any statements like "Damn those city people for bringing in live theater!" or similar rants, so exactly how are you saying that these people are afraid of "culture" (which apparently only city people possess )?

Quite frankly, you just did what you are trying to say these "country folk" have done. You just painted with a WIDE brush (read: Generalization), and brought up issues that weren't even mentioned in this topic.

We didn't live there year-round. And we most certainly had signs. Our place even got broken into a couple of times. My whole issue was people IGNORING the signs. Which seems to be a more regular occurrence. Again, I don't have a problem with hunting, but if you choose to be a poor sportsman, which I feel a percentage of the hunting population does, then I can see how others may want to restrict your ability to practice your sport.

A "percentage"? A percentage of gun owners go on serial rampages. A very small percentage, just like a very small percentage of hunters act in an unsportsmanlike manner. So, do you think we should "restrict your ability to practice your sport" since a PERCENTAGE of gun owners act violently?

 

[esmith]

Idea! How about this. Move away. Or even better, don't move there in the first place.

Oh no these people are far too important to move away from a problem. No, they have to fight and piss and moan until they get what they want. And they eventually do. In my township it is illegal to launch any projectile whether it be to shoot a bow to shooting a slingshot. This is because people expect YOU to change around THEIR wants. Its time people get a damn mind.