rimshot25tn
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How often should i clean the barrels on my cz 452 22lr and should i use any thing other than a barrel brush ? I have noticed some white chalkie stuff is this normal i usualy shoot cci mini mag or federal champions.
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Claude Clay
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4+ years and 2+K rounds; a bit of rem oil on the boresnakes tail and 3 passes through the bbl. dental pick and soft bristle tooth brush on all other parts as need
CrankyOldGuy
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I find that my .22s (Papoose and 10/22) reliability and accuracy fall off pretty dramatically if I don't keep them clean and well lubed.
I give the bores a thorough brushing, bore-cleaning and a light oiling followed by a dry patch after each range session to keep them "up to snuff".
I give the bores a thorough brushing, bore-cleaning and a light oiling followed by a dry patch after each range session to keep them "up to snuff".
cat_IT_guy
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my savage .22 (bolt action) gets cleaned every couple thousand rounds at best....and I have never had it get so dirty that I see any noticeable loss of accuracy.
my buckmark .22 pistol (semi) on the other hand needs to be cleaned every couple hundred rounds or I start to see the occasional FTF.
my buckmark .22 pistol (semi) on the other hand needs to be cleaned every couple hundred rounds or I start to see the occasional FTF.
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Clean the bore only if accuracy falls off. If accuracy never falls off, you never need to clean the bore.
Many competition shooters will never let a brush touch the bore of a .22 LR. They'll use a patch on a string and pull it through the bore.
Many competition shooters will never let a brush touch the bore of a .22 LR. They'll use a patch on a string and pull it through the bore.
wuchak
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The only think I use anymore on my .22's is a boresnake. I saturate the front of the brush portion with CLP and lightly coat the end of the tail with the same to leave a thin layer behind for rust prevention. Pull it through 3x times and I'm done. Then I wet a .357 patch with CLP, wipe all external metal surfaces, especially those that my grimy paws have touched, and then gently wipe with a clean cotton cloth (old t-shirt).
Once every couple of thousand rounds I will pull them out at home and do a complete breakdown, cleaning, and lube. Usually on a day when the weather is not nice enough to go shooting.
More .22 bores have probably been ruined by overcleaning than anything else.
Never clean your .22 from the bore end unless you have a bore guide for the cleaning rod. Nothing will mess up accuracy like damaging the crown.
Once every couple of thousand rounds I will pull them out at home and do a complete breakdown, cleaning, and lube. Usually on a day when the weather is not nice enough to go shooting.
More .22 bores have probably been ruined by overcleaning than anything else.
Never clean your .22 from the bore end unless you have a bore guide for the cleaning rod. Nothing will mess up accuracy like damaging the crown.
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I have to clean my Marlin 22 mag every 100 rounds, accuracy goes to crap. The groups open up from about an inch to over 3 inches. CCI claims they use "clean propellants", but after my bronze brush goes down the bore, I get 5 patches that are completely black.
dispatch55126
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I clean all of my guns after every range trip, period. Since I may shoot 500 rounds through my 10/22 per trip, I'll run a boresnake down the barrel once and spend most of my time cleaning the receiver and bolt. The barrel doesn't get dirty enough to warrant scrubbing but the receiver gets enough carbon fouling that I usually end up cleaning with a dental pick.
.22 ammo is coated in wax which lubes the barrel.
it normally takes a few rounds(25-100) to lube the barrel to get it to shoot constantly.
The barrel will not deteriorate over time in good storage due to their being a nice layer of wax on the bore
Eventually you should clean your barrel depending on the ammo you shoot. Some is very dirty and will begin to gum everything up... I clean with one or two passes of my .204 boresnake every few thousand rounds.
Bore snakes work great however "YOU WILL WANT TO" use a .204 caliber one as CZ rimfires have tight bores. A .22 caliber one will be "EXTREMELY TIGHT"
If you do not believe me, check over at rimfirecentral.com on the CZ forums and many of them will tell you to use a .20 caliber bore snake. I first had a .22 but gave it to my brother who was entering basic training so he could clean his 5.56 nato barrel in a breeze... well he said one pull once a day and it passed inspection where as the other guys where spending hours over the weeks doing it the other way.
Speaking of bore snakes - do you think they do a good enough job overall with a few passes? Would you pull out the old cleaning rod? Right now i do all my barrel cleaning solely with bore snakes. 2-3 passes every deer hunting season and I put the gun away for a year. It sure as hell looks clean when I look through the barrel at a light.
it normally takes a few rounds(25-100) to lube the barrel to get it to shoot constantly.
The barrel will not deteriorate over time in good storage due to their being a nice layer of wax on the bore
Eventually you should clean your barrel depending on the ammo you shoot. Some is very dirty and will begin to gum everything up... I clean with one or two passes of my .204 boresnake every few thousand rounds.
Bore snakes work great however "YOU WILL WANT TO" use a .204 caliber one as CZ rimfires have tight bores. A .22 caliber one will be "EXTREMELY TIGHT"
If you do not believe me, check over at rimfirecentral.com on the CZ forums and many of them will tell you to use a .20 caliber bore snake. I first had a .22 but gave it to my brother who was entering basic training so he could clean his 5.56 nato barrel in a breeze... well he said one pull once a day and it passed inspection where as the other guys where spending hours over the weeks doing it the other way.
Speaking of bore snakes - do you think they do a good enough job overall with a few passes? Would you pull out the old cleaning rod? Right now i do all my barrel cleaning solely with bore snakes. 2-3 passes every deer hunting season and I put the gun away for a year. It sure as hell looks clean when I look through the barrel at a light.
CrankyOldGuy
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I can't believe that people still support the myth that .22lr's doesn't need good bore cleaning. I challenge anyone to do a 1000 round accuracy test with a bore snake + oil vs brushes and bore cleaner. Post the targets.
I've never shot a dirty .22 (or any other rifle) that didn't respond well to a good bore cleaning.
I've never shot a dirty .22 (or any other rifle) that didn't respond well to a good bore cleaning.
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People like top free pistol competitors, BR-50 record holders, and 3-position Olympic medalists? Those people?
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Apparently so, all of my personal experience says otherwise.
JImbothefiveth
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I usually clean every time I shoot. I'm not sure what it does for accuracy, because I don't shoot from a bench, I just clean in the hopes it will stay reliable.
BTW, don't use too much oil/grease/CLP/ etc, it can make the gun a jam-o-matic.
BTW, don't use too much oil/grease/CLP/ etc, it can make the gun a jam-o-matic.
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It's very gun dependent. I know of a very good BR-50 shooter that has to clean his bore every 30 rounds or he gets fliers. Between cleaning the bore after shooting and dressing the bore before shooting, he doesn't get much shooting in! Other top BR-50 shooters simply do not clean their bores because they never see a decrease in accuracy.
Hence my suggestion that folks not clean their .22 bores until they see an accuracy drop-off. This saves wear-and-tear from unnecessary cleaning -- and IMO most .22 bore cleaning is unnecessary.
CrankyOldGuy
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"Don't clean until necessary." No reason not to try that.
I didn't mean to be argumentative, but I just have never experienced a .22 that required no bore cleaning.
I'l will give it a try with any new .22s and see. Sometimes it pays to try something different. None of us is an expert in everything and my limited 4-5 gun experience with .22s is certainly not the "end-all" answer to everything.
What the hell, I may learn something new.
I didn't mean to be argumentative, but I just have never experienced a .22 that required no bore cleaning.
I'l will give it a try with any new .22s and see. Sometimes it pays to try something different. None of us is an expert in everything and my limited 4-5 gun experience with .22s is certainly not the "end-all" answer to everything.
What the hell, I may learn something new.
Birdhunter1
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One thing I will say is DO NOT use a .22 cal rod in a CZ, the bore is extremely tight and you will end up with a rod that has a perfect imprint of your rifling. I used a Pro-Shot .22 rod that I have used on 10 or 12 .22 rimfires, ran it through the bore (using a POssum Hollow bore guide) of my CZ before I ever shot it with a patch soaked in Hoppes #9 and I dern near cried when I got tehe rod out. Gun shot great so the tears slowly dried. Use a .20 or .17 cal rod if you use a rod.
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I once drove through Oregon on the main highway and didn't see any elk. So I assume there are no elk in Oregon.
Kymasabe
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Accuracy on my 10/22 actually drops off when it's recently cleaned. I need to run at least 50 rounds thru the thing to foul it up a little and increase accuracy. Who ever said a clean bore was a good thing?
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