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I’m in the “clean it” camp

I’m also a nut for accuracy when it comes to load development and shooting, so keepIng the rifle consistent and not letting hard carbon and copper build up helps fulfill my goals
 
I just posted a response to a similar question on another forum...

Regarding 22 LR, I used to be less of a "clean after shooting" guy than I am now that I've taken a look at all of my guns with a borescope. A 22 LR gets a ton of powder residue after a few rounds, so I now push a patch through mine after shooting. It doesn't necessarily look very bad to the naked eye, but if you put some magnification and lighting to it, is isn't that pretty. I don't do a heavy cleaning - have seen no need for it -- but I like to get the debris out of the barrel and to make myself feel better about my gun hygiene. :)

Here's what you'll see with a borescope.

This is a shot of my 2007 model 452 FS with a relatively clean barrel. I've labeled what you're seeing in the borescope photo in case the presence of the mirror is confusing. The white specks on the mirror are only on the mirror, not on the barrel itself.

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Here's my 452 Trainer after about 100 rounds with no cleaning. I was shooting several different loads including SK Standard Plus, Pistol Match, Winchester 333, Auto Match, and perhaps another one or two. I don't recall what I fired most recently in this gun.
Chamber:
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Barrel:
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Chamber after two patches (with a little bit of solvent) were pushed through it (again, some specks on the mirror):
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Barrel after the two patches were pushed on through it:
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I don't think the debris, as bad as it looks, actually damages the gun other than getting it dirty, but I'm more content after having taken 2 minutes to run a patch through it and knowing that it's relatively clean as it sits in the safe awaiting the next outing. I'm going to buy a Patchworm, Boresnake, or some such product and give it a try as a quicker and easier way (than a cleaning rod and patches) to clear this stuff out of the chamber and barrel after a shooting session.
 
Take a clean gun, shoot it, and the gun is now dirty. Shoot 100 more times and it's a bit dirtier but not much different than after that first shot.

I live in a low humidity area so I rarely clean. A good friend, who lives in Oklahoma, has to run a couple patches down his barrel every time he finishes shooting or the humidity will attack it.
 
Has anyone used a .17 or .20 or .22 Dewey Nylon Coated Rod on centerfire rifles? Not sure how much flex there would be... I'd be nice if i could use a .17 Rod for my .270 & 30/06. Pretty sure it'll be fine for the .22
 
Has anyone used a .17 or .20 or .22 Dewey Nylon Coated Rod on centerfire rifles? Not sure how much flex there would be... I'd be nice if i could use a .17 Rod for my .270 & 30/06. Pretty sure it'll be fine for the .22
I have a .22 coated Dewey rod that I use for everything up to .45
 
On Dewey's website, they say buy a .20 Nylon Coated Rod for cz .22's, b/c of cz's tight barrels. Do you need to buy .20 brushes and bore mops too? Or are they just talking about the Rod? Anyone know for sure?
 
I highly recommend gunblue490 firearm maintenance videos on you tube ,Tipton 26 inch coated rod .22-26 calibers .22 cal rifle bronze brushes and mops .22 cal bore snake for the field or Otis pull through cleaning kit. This what I used for Ruger 10/22 don't know about CZ which is very nice rifle congratulations
 
On Dewey's website, they say buy a .20 Nylon Coated Rod for cz .22's, b/c of cz's tight barrels. Do you need to buy .20 brushes and bore mops too? Or are they just talking about the Rod? Anyone know for sure?


IF you buy a Dewey rod, you just need the 20 caliber rod for the CZ; the jag and brush is the typical 22cal. That's because the CZ 22 rimfires have 0.211" bores. https://cz-usa.com/support/faq/
However, like Dewey says, you do need the add on 17A adapter to use the typical 8/32 threaded brushes and jags. https://deweyrods.com/product/20-caliber-nylon-coated-rod-25-inches/ (for instance, since there are several lengths)

With the Dewey 20 cal rod and adapter, a typical 22cal brush can be used. Just remember that your "22cal" brush is going to deform end up smaller. If you then use it on other 22LR's, it will have additional clearance. It is best to have a dedicated brush for just your CZ 22LR because it will end up 21 caliber after a few cleanings.


Now, to the question of how often a person should clean a 22LR rimfire. This question is perennial. I used to be someone who dutifully "cleaned it every time". However, a lubed soft lead projectile, even if it is copper washed is not going to copper foul easily as even copper plated bullets are lubed. This is just an opinion. If you have a high end, precision machined barrel, fouling will distort the imprint on the bullet since the rifling is perfect. In this example, dutiful cleaning maintains perfection. However, most sporter barrels have faults of some kind and lube and fouling can coat and fill in those imperfections. CZ barrels are good, but not perfect by any means and they do have imperfections where a seasoned barrel will typically outshoot a recently cleaned barrel IMHO.

Having said that, there is no way that I would clean my CZ 22LR barrel after every trip to the range. It typically takes about 30 shots just to season the bore get the accuracy to return after cleaning. There is a time to clean when accuracy suffers, but no one can give a round count for anyone's particular rifle because it depends on the ammo also. I can run about 400 rounds of different RWS flavors before I can see an accuracy difference that is not elemental conditions or my shooting. If a person runs bulk ammo, that ammo is so inconsistent that a person may be able to shoot several bricks (or cases) before they see an accuracy difference.

For the 17HMR rimfire, remember that these are the same jacketed .172" bullets that are also used in 17 caliber centerfire rifles. I would clean a 17hmr like you would clean a centerfire. It is harder to tell with the 17's when to clean since fouling isn't the only thing in play that makes accuracy bad. You have to determine whether it is fouling, a bad wind day, barrel heat, or your ammo when the accuracy suffers. While some boxes are better than others, most 17HMR ammo has an ES of 200fps+ for every box of 50 (the difference between the slowest and fastest shot).
 
I'll periodically swab chambers, clean the action and wipe them down after shooting but haven't cleaned a .22 bore in 20yrs. It's just not necessary. A wise man once said, the more guns you own and the more often you shoot, the less likely you are to be cleaning them all the time. I'd hate to know I couldn't allow myself to grab one, walk outside and fire off 10rds without spending a half hour cleaning it.
 
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