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CMP M1 Garand

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by mlankton, Jan 7, 2021.

  1. chris in va

    chris in va Member

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    If I may suggest, the lower grades will have more character and it can be a teaching or educational moment at the range. I lost count how many times someone came up and asked about my field grade with battered wood and oil oozing from the top handguard. Everyone asks what the dimples are on the stock.
     
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  2. ford8nr

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    I got a HRA Service Grade when they first offered the Korean returns. Barrel gauged in the new range for muzzle and throat. Tearing it down I could find no visible wear. And checking the parts it appears correct. I might have gotten REAL lucky. Original wood looks great.
     

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  3. carbine85

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    I bought a Rack Grade H&R 3-4 years ago and it was a real piece of crap. The trigger assembly wouldn't lock up properly and each piece of the wood had cracked and chunks missing. I requested a replacement and upgraded to a Service Grade. I ended up with an all matching H&R with a nice stamped stock. Rack Rifles are a crap shoot.
     
  4. Risky buisness

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    Results may vary...
    I ordered a correct grade. Showed up as a perfect example of a 53 Springfield Armory. Some small dings, except for proof and routine function firing it's way low mileage, I couldnt be happier with the rifle, and at the time, the ammunition they had for it.
    Having no experience with rack or service grade I cant comment, but based on my experience, if its sold by the CMP, it will meet or exceed the classification they list it as, or will get it right.
     
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  5. wiscoaster

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    Can you post a pic?
     
  6. Elkins45

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    I was well satisfied with the wood on my field grade from 2017.

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  7. mgmorden

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    I would go Service Grade - you'll be getting more original parts.

    For the most part - the Garand isn't a practical rifle by modern standards, and most people aren't buying it as a gun for true utilitarian use. Instead, they're buying it as a piece of history. With that in mind, I'd rather a more original gun in slightly more worn condition than one that's in pristine shape but made from a lot of replacement parts.
     
  8. cfullgraf

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    Not necessarily. Except for Correct and Collector's grade, the grade of the rifle is relative to condition of the rifle, not an indication of what parts have been installed in the rifle. A Service grade is in better condition than a Field grade that is better than a Rack grade.

    A huge percentage of Garands have been through at least one rebuild, either in the field or at an arsenal, many have gone through multiple rebuilds over time particularly WWII vintage rifles. Since parts of the Garand are not serial numbered, the ones removed from a rifle during rebuild do not necessarily get returned to that rifle.

    Also, one of the "holy grails" of Garand collectors is finding parts made during the appropriate time the receiver was originally made. Parts are marked with the drawing number and revision number that dates the approximate time the part was manufactured.

    But, if you read some of books by Scott Duff, Bruce Canfield and others, you'll find frequently parts that were installed during the original assembly of a rifle that were made outside the date range of the receiver or even made by one of the other manufacturers. It all depended on what parts were on hand at the time and what was needed to meet production quotas.

    Rifle's sent by CMP are somewhat governed by the luck of the draw.

    If you are mail ordering a Garand, I'd go with a Service grade, it will be in better condition than a Field grade or Rack grade. Service grades are excellent rifles, but many are disappointed with the condition of the rifle when they receive it.

    If you want a Garand that looks new, go with a CMP Special grade. Unfortunately, they are out of stock at present.
     
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  9. mgmorden

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    When I say "original" parts I'm not really referring to all the parts that were on the rifle when first built, but rather original production rather than modern replacements. IE, even if they're mix masters, I want all (or as many as possible) of the mixed parts to be from original military production rather than modern reproductions/replacements.
     
  10. Garandimal

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    Always suggest a CMP Service Grade 1M rifle, unless you will be shooting for prizes, in which case the Criterion Bbi's are a good hedge.

    Also suggest that you get more than one, and sell off the one(s) that don't sing to you.

    Stickies are also a good idea.

    While can't attest to the current market, the Greek returns produced a variety of nice Service Grade rifles.

    Collector grade metal w/ as new bores and CMP birch stocks:

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    Re-Arsenaled rifles w/ near-new bores and USGI wood:

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    And sprinkled in, some Danes and USGI turn-in rifles that are well in spec., but have "been there - done that."

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    Keepers, all.




    GR
     
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