Cnbc remington hit job

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Remington Under Fire, CNBC Wednesday, October 20th at 9PM

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39383236/CNB..._Premiere_On_Wednesday_October_20th_at_9PM_ET

The result of a 10-month investigation, CNBC examines allegations that the world's most popular hunting rifle is prone to firing without pulling the trigger, and that its manufacturer, Remington, has been aware of the situation for 60 years. Dozens of deaths and scores of injuries have been traced to the alleged problem. The story is told through corporate insiders, internal documents dating back to 1945, and a father searching for answers about the death of his nine-year-old son.
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It will be interesting to see not only what the investigation found, but also how the program is presented.

Let's avoid comments about liberal media attacking guns please.
 
CNBC I can usually trust to deliver good news. I'd really like to see what they present on Remington. If there's genuinely an issue, I'd like to know.
 
Sounds like the "news story" about Chevy trucks that explode upon impact......the one they crashed had an incendiary device on the gas tank that blew it up moments before their "test" impact....
 
You notice how even the rumor of a certain manufacturer sucking gets totally blown out of control in our little gun culture. For instance, Kimbers and the MIM parts. I have NEVER heard something bad about Remington triggers. If they sucked I think we would have heard about it in the last 50 years..
 
CNBC examines allegations that the world's most popular hunting rifle is prone to firing without pulling the trigger, and that its manufacturer, Remington, has been aware of the situation for 60 years.
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I find it seriously hard to believe that any modern firearm, let alone a very popular one, fires without pulling the trigger. On top of that... why would any manufacturer cover it up, especially in today's lawsuit happy world?
 
I have owned plenty of remmington rifles, and hunted and shot with folks who have more experience than I. Not heard much complaint about trigger problems. Never experience any.
 
There is an ongoing thread in Rifle where several independent owners report cases of the gun firing upon the safety being switched off:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=548107

ETA: Should have read through the thread first, just saw CoRoMO has already linked the Rifle thread.

I'll also say that while the media tends to do their part in fear mongering, today's lawsuit happy society would lead me to believe that this sort of investigative report would be based upon facts and evidence. If they say that Remington has known about it, they probably have some internal document that states such. Remington stands to lose money from this, so anything presented that turns out to be untrue would be grounds for Remington to sue. While there may be some sensationalism in the report, I'd wager that CNBC's lawyers have gone over the transcript and made sure that the report has evidence to back up their claims.
 
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I have NEVER heard something bad about Remington triggers.
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Me neither, and WE would surely be aware of such an issue as a "web community".

My bet....

They take a Remi with an adjustable trigger and adjust it so low it actuates when the safety is taken off.
 
Please tell me if I'm wrong here, but I looked at the internal document from Remington by link, and see only a 600 series issue?

Did the new trigger system safe guard any further issues?
 
Just Google "Remington 700 safety problems" or similar. There are plenty of articles and opinions on it so it's not exactly a brand new topic.
 
I've read it. Not too concerned about it. I had a 700 briefly and never had any issues with the safety. Just saying
 
I've known about this for many years. I remember something on TV about it some years ago, and I think there have been lawsuits.

A long time ago, on my first hunting rifle, I figured out how to adjust the trigger to make it really light. It was a Remington 700 in .270. The trigger was great, but way too touchy for a hunting rifle. Twice it went off when closing the bolt, once for me and once for a friend. After the second time I realized something was seriously wrong and I fixed it.

Fortunately we both knew safe firearm handling and the barrel was pointed in a safe direction.

Two other times I've also helped friends with their Remington 700 triggers. The rifles would sit in a closet for a year or two, the oil from the last cleaning would seep down into the trigger mechanism and gum up, and the rifle would either not cock, or go off when the bolt was closed.

I'm not a gunsmith, but I have several model 700s. I like the 700 trigger, but if it's improperly adjusted or gummed up with crud or oil it's not a good thing. Combined with unsafe gun handling it can be really bad.
 
Don't own one, never handled one, but Reminton.com in the safety center mentions a recall of 710 rifles because of a faulty safety default spring
 
I had a post '64 Winchester Mod 70 that did the exact same thing. A very important "learning experience" from my youth. I was 10 years old sitting on my dad's lap in a ground blind getting ready to shoot a white tail doe. My father had placed the rifle (.243) in my lap with the butt on my thigh and the muzzle straight up. As he says "Now, when I put this on "fire" it's ready to go..." the damn thing went off as soon as the safety clicked to the fire position. My ears ring to this day just thinking about it. Luckily it just blew a hole in the roof and spooked the deer. So as the deer came back we cycled another round but didn't take the safety off that time until the rifle was out the window. I went on to shoot a doe, but the rifle went to the gunsmith after that. Never had a problem with it since. That was 25 years ago.
 
CNBC Show on Remington

CNBC is advertising a show this Wed, 10/20 at 9 PM ET on Remington. Sounds like they're claiming a safety issue with the Model 700 firing unexpectedly. CNBC web site claims an issue with the trigger system and references the original designer.

Anyone ever heard of a problem?

CNBC claims 75 cases. I don't know how many 700 were sold but 75 possible defects on the number sold sounds like a CNBC hack job in motion. I guess we'll see Wed.
 
The fire control that they're targeting was done away with years ago. I'm sure CNBC will paint a very negative picture, regardless.
 
I saw that too. I work at a brokerage firm and they play CNBC all day. They've been pushing this one pretty hard. To be honest, I've never heard of the issue
 
the remington 700 trigger has a serious design flaw that was finally fixed in october of 2006. when remington designed the trigger for the 700 they used a spring loaded connector that rides between the trigger & sear to bypass winchester and sako's over ride trigger patents. if you dissasemble the trigger and epoxy the connector to the trigger or drill & tap the trigger to screw the connector to it you will have a safe trigger.

do a search for jack belk and you should be able to find all the information you'll ever need on remington 700 triggers
 
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