Cnbc remington hit job

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The problem is real, well documented, and has been a problem with Remingtons for years. If you attempt to pull the trigger, or have some brush snag on the trigger, with the safety in the "SAFE" position the gun will not fire. Then later when the safety is moved to the "FIRE" position, in rare cases the gun will fire without pulling the trigger.

Most accidents happened when unloading rifles. Remingtons fix was to change the safety so the bolt can be opened to unload the rifle with the safety still in the "SAFE" position. I also suspect this is why newer Remigtons come from the factory now with much heavier than necessary triggers.

I tried this with one of my unloaded Remingtons several years ago and was able to get the gun to dry fire 2-3 times in a row. After doing it several times it stopped and I have not been able to get the rifle to repeat the problem since.

Remington slightly changed their trigger a couple of years ago. Supposedly the problem is fixed, but I have read reports of at least 1 new rifle doing the same thing when a shooter released the safety on a firing range. The rifle was already on the sandbags and pointed downrange, so no one was hurt.

I'm not a Remington hater, have a couple of their rifles and don't plan on selling them over this. I've known about the problem for 30 years. But I know there is a problem that has never been adequately addressed.

There are some who are so blindly loyal to Remington that they refuse to accept there is a problem simply because it has never happened to them. They will blame the problem on the shooter instead. Claiming that they must have had their finger on the trigger. Or that they had messed up a home gunsmithing trigger job. I have no doubt that this is true in some cases, but that does not change the fact that Remington has had a problem for decades and has not addressed the problem.
 
Cnbc is running a 1hour hit job on remingon 900eastern. Luckily no one watches cnbc anyway!
 
A "hit job" huh? I haven't started watching it yet (but have it set to record) but considering it is pertaining to the defects in the trigger system, which are a well documented design flaw, I seriously doubt it is any type of slanderous report. :scrutiny: BTW, for all the folks that missed it (or are currently missing it), it also airs at 10PM, 12PM, & 1AM EST.

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Me too. Look at the recall on the 17HMR i'd be disappointed for a 200/250 dollar credit to replace a rifle that costs more than that new.
 
Interviewing 90 yearold man with leading
Questions is not a hit job? Interviewer asks if AD are possible "because the trigger is so light?" and mr walker responds "yes i guess so" trigger weight isnt even remotely related to the "problem".
 
Like I said, I haven't begun to watch it, so take what I say with a grain of salt...I am just tired of hearing the Big Green "holy rollers" (which isn't necessarily directed at you) complain that there is no defect (BTW, I like Remington, but they need to address some well known issues, including late-model workmanship).

:)
 
Safety clicking off and gun fires shoukdnt happen. However i dont aim loaded guns at my son so i wont shoot him. I wonder whatthat lady was thinking when
She aimed the loaded rifle at her son then started to manipulate it... Probably "im an idiot"
 
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Cnbc is running a 1hour hit job on remingon
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Do you have any information to refute any of the claims made in the program?



Safety clicking off and gun fires shoukdnt happen. However i dont aim loaded guns at my son so i wont shoot him. I wonder whatthat lady was thinking when
She aimed the loaded rifle at her son then started to manipulate it... Probably "im an idiot"
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I can see that you were not paying attention. The lady did not aim a loaded gun at her son. First of all, there is a huge difference between aiming a gun at something and having the muzzle cover it. To claim that she aimed it at her son implies that she could see him and intentionally pointed her gun at him or sighted the gun on him.

Interviewing 90 yearold man with leading
Questions is not a hit job? Interviewer asks if AD are possible "because the trigger is so light?" and mr walker responds "yes i guess so" trigger weight isnt even remotely related to the "problem".
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Asking Walker (who is 98, not 90) a specific question about the gun is not leading. The question of the trigger came up in the context of whether the "lady" had her finger on the trigger or not, the implication being that if she did, that could have been the reason for the discharge.

When the lady started to work the action on her rifle, she knew where her children were. The boy changed locations and was not in view of his mother when the gun discharged. He was on the other side of a horse trailer from here. So the notion that she aimed her rifle at her son is wrong. You cannot actually aim at something you can't see or that you don't know is there.

If anyone is doing a hit job as you claim, it is you for misrepresenting the program and the mother's actions.
 
just an informational post here, both CNBC and Remington have videos on youtube about this subject. remington has actually made a website for it.

for those of us without cable.
 
Ok she pointed the loaded rifle at her son not aimed. I also will not point a loaded gun at my son or anyone else i dont intend to kill.
 
Bottom line is that no firearm should go off without touching the trigger, regardless of whether there was dirt or gunk in the trigger mechanism. This definately a design flaw that should have been corrected years ago.
 
When I unload a firearm, I check the background. I aim at the ground, about 20 feet in front of me. Regarding safety use, my safety goes off when my crosshair is on the desired target. For what it's worth, my present M700 Police does not even have a safety. It has a 4 ounce tactical trigger and zero safety. As my own safety, the bolt does not get closed until my crosshair is on the desired target. Just my thoughts because I will never know the true story of inside Remington.

I did watch the show, and found it to be as objective as such an emotional topic can be presented.

Geno
 
I'm taping this now. I'll watch it this weekend probably.

FWIW, this doesn't sound like much of a hit job, other that they are publicizing a legitimate problem. When this happens in other industries, I don't decry a network for running a hitjob. Maybe I'll change my mind after I watch it, but maybe I won't either.
 
CNBC investigates Remington.

:barf: :banghead: :rolleyes:

Just saw this on the digital cable guide. It's not on yet at the time of this post, and I honestly intend to be in bed sound asleep by the time it starts airing, but here's what it says.

'Remington Under Fire: A CNBC Investigation

Allegations that the world's most-popular hunting rifle is prone to firing without pulling the trigger prompt an investigation of its manufacturer, Remington, who may have been aware of the problem for 60 years. (Business) 1 hr'


We're being targeted by the media again. Right before an election. Big surprise, huh?
 
IMHO, it's a hit job! I watched some of it and turned the channel. Remington isn't responsible for guns people alter that are then dangerous.
 
Just watched a couple short videos on Hulu and on MSNBC. Apparently a young boy was shot and killed when a 700 went off while the mother was unloading it.

No mention at all that the gun shouldn't have been pointed at him in the first place.
 
They should give them heck for that pile of crap 1911 they now make. Mine broke after seven rounds and I'm still waiting for repair under their warranty.

The safety problems are well known on some of their cheap variations and should have been fixed years ago.
 
In the Rich Barber incident his wife was holding the gun with the muzzle pointed at the horse trailer. Her son had gotten off of the horse which was behind her and ran around to the other side of the trailer. The bullet went through the trailer exiting an striking her son. There was no way for her to know that the gun was going to fire and that her son was in line with the bullet. What could she have done better
Dallas Jack
 
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