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Colorado Gun Control Senate Hearings - Monday 03/04/13

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  1. coloradokevin

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    As the misguided gun bills that were introduced here in Colorado earlier this month continue to advance, they've now reached the Colorado Senate, for hearings that start this coming MONDAY, MARCH 4TH, 2013.

    Sorry if I sound like a broken record on this issue, but please take a couple of minutes to write to these elected representatives and let them know that you oppose these laws! We're entering some dark days here in Colorado, but we need to fight these measures as hard as we can.

    This news article contains links to each of the SEVEN bills being debated this week. FOUR of those bills have already cleared the Colorado House of Representatives (which means that they'll become law if the Senate passes them and the governor signs them).

    http://www.9news.com/news/article/320410/339/Monday-is-gun-day-in-CO-Senate-hearings



    Here's a list of nine Democratic Senators that are up for reelection. Their votes are critical to us in this process (thanks to Zak Smith for originally providing this list in another thread):


    Irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4852
    angela.giron.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4878
    lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4862
    cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4856
    john.morse.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-6364
    Gail.Schwartz.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4871
    Jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4873
    lois.tochtrop.senate@state.co.us- 303-866-4863
    Andy.kerr.senate@state.co.u- 303-866-4859


    Here's a comprehensive list of the Senators in Colorado:


    irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us
    david.balmer.senate@state.co.us
    randy.baumgardner.senate@state.co.us
    greg@gregbrophy.net
    bill.cadman.senate@state.co.us
    morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us
    larry.crowder.senate@state.co.us
    angela.giron.senate@state.co.us
    kevin.grantham.senate@state.co.us
    lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us
    ted.harvey.senate@state.co.us
    rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us
    owen.hill.senate@state.co.us
    mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us
    senatorhudak@gmail.com
    cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us;
    mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us
    senatormattjones@gmail.com
    john.kefalas.senate@state.co.us
    andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us
    steve.king.senate@state.co.us
    senatorlambert@comcast.net
    kevin@kevinlundberg.com
    vicki.marble.senate@state.co.us
    john.morse.senate@state.co.us
    linda.newell.senate@gmail.com
    jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us
    senatorrenfroe@gmail.com
    ellen.roberts.senate@state.co.us
    mark.scheffel.senate@state.co.us
    gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com
    pat.steadman.senate@state.co.us
    lotochtrop@aol.com
    nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us
    jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us


    After these bills clear the Senate, they only need a signature from this man to become law:



    http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/GovHickenlooper/CBON/1249674240317
     
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  2. CoRoMo

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    Good work! Thanks for putting this together again.

    The last link didn't go right for me. Here's where everyone can contact Hick: http://www.colorado.gov/govhdir/requests/opinion-leg.html

    I would encourage everyone, regardless of living in Colorado or not, to contact the legislature here and the governor because they will listed to tourist dollars blowing away from Colorado's economy.
     
  3. coloradokevin

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    I corrected the last link, it should work now. Thanks!
     
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    Sent all of them an email and messaged/posted their FB
     
  5. BlkLtng02

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    Sent them all an email and I let Jeanne Nicholson know personally how I felt at a town hall meeting.
     
  6. Zak Smith

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    It looks like we have 2 Dem Senators who will vote against 1224. We
    only need 3 to defeat any bill.

    We spoke to another 6 or 7 and I think there is a pretty good chance
    we can get at least 1 or 2 to vote with us on 1224.

    We need to keep up the email campaign through the weekend. If you can
    call or FAX that's even better. Sending to all Senators is good, but
    here is the list of Democrat Senators who we might be able to convince
    to vote against 1224.

    linda.newell.senate@gmail.com
    nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us
    senatorhudak@gmail.com
    Irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us
    angela.giron.senate@state.co.us
    lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us
    cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us
    john.morse.senate@state.co.us
    Gail.Schwartz.senate@state.co.us
    Jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us
    lois.tochtrop.senate@state.co.us
    Andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us
    senatormattjones@gmail.com

    Please keep your emails POLITE and non-threatening. We need to help
    them to come over to our side, not given them a reason/excuse to vote
    against us.

    I would strongly recommend focusing on HB 1224.


    The Campus Concealed Carry bill has odds about the same as 1224.

    We will almost certainly lose UBC's. I am not giving up but the odds
    are much worse on that one.

    There is a lot of criticism at the Capitol about the Senate Bill on
    "Assault Weapon Liability." I don't know where the votes will stand on
    it.
     
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    There's talk of an organized mission to drive around and around the capitol building, blowing our horns to make as much noise as possible to make ourselves heard.
     
  8. Zak Smith

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    I honestly don't know that that will help, but I am not going to tell anyone else what to do or not do.

    Monday is only the committee meetings, not the full vote. The (D) votes are there in the committee to pass them out anyway. If we can defeat these it will be in the full Senate vote, which is not yet scheduled.
     
  9. coloradokevin

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    I agree. Like it or not, there's probably a 99% chance that the Universal Background Checks issue is going to pass. We can still win on HB1224 (magazine capacity) and the Campus Carry bill, but we're probably going to need a strong focus on those issues.

    There are plenty of problems with that liability bill. It would probably be the worst one of the bunch to pass, but I don't imagine it has much of a chance of getting through in its current form. Obviously something to keep an eye on, but not at the top of my list of concerns at the moment.

    BTW, Zak, I sent you a PM to ask you about an issue related to this Senate debate... couldn't really post it in an open forum, as you'll probably understand once you read it.

    While I appreciate the enthusiasm, my personal opinion is that a horn-blasting protest will only make us look antagonistic, which is not something we will be likely to benefit from in this debate. Kind of like the tactics that were used by the Occupy protesters, right around the time everyone started hating them. Regardless, I'm not trying to tell you what to do. However, I'd caution you to review Denver Revised Municipal Statute 54-71 (particularly the last sentence in subsection "a") before proceeding with this plan. Here's the text of that statute:

     
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    Emails done....again.
    Dan
     
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    Good luck guys, keep up the good fight.
     
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    Corrected e-mail for Senator Tochtrop:

    senloistochtrop@aol.com

    * It's correct in the first post, but not in post #6.
     
  13. coloradokevin

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    Just FYI, apparently the Giffords family will be testifying here in Colorado on Monday, against the rights of lawful gun owners:

    http://www.9news.com/news/article/320927/339/Giffords-husband-to-testify-in-Colorado


    Personally, I don't think he deserves to get ANY official time in front of our legislature. He is not a Colorado voter, a Colorado resident, or a Colorado tax payer. Our rights are none of his concern.
     
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    more proof this is a national fight with a beachhead in the mountains
     
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    So true!

    Over the past few day I've contacted a number of folks outside the state to urge them to get involved here and hold ransom Colorado's tourism revenue and college tuition if these laws pass.
     
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    Sent (again).
     
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    Any new news today?
     
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    All contacted.

    Multitudes reached out to in an attempt to get them involved as well.
     
  20. coloradokevin

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    Magazine ban just passed committee 3-2. Not a surprise. But, the full senate vote is probably our last hope, since our governor is still pledging to sign this bill... nevertheless, keep contacting him as well!

    By the way, as they closed out testimony on this bill, one of the anti-gun politicians commented about the 'emotional and disrespectful displays by gun owners who were driving around honking today' (or something to that effect). So, that protest was noticed, but probably not in the best ways... as I sort of expected.

    Lots of great testimony was given AGAINST these bills, and mostly emotional pleas were made FOR these bills. Again, not unexpected.
     
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    Will there be any amendments before it goes before the full Senate for the first time?
     
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    9 out of 10 people he talked to support the new laws?? The town hall I went to with Senator Jeanne Nicholson it was 90 pro gun to 4 anti gun. Give me a break!!
     
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    I am not from Colorado but, I knew this guy who got elected Governor had been pro-gun control for a long time. Unfortunately, the people voted him and the rest of the anti-gunners into office. Just like Obama. These people do not change or evolve over time. They mean what they say. Makes me ill.
     
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    Sent them all emails. Thx for the links. Will call tomorrow.
     
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