Colorado gun control

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Finally recieved reply from Sen Jeanne Nicholson. She is hard line on House version. " 80% of those in pen bought from private sales" The fact that a large number of these were felon to felon underground sales. No concept of real street life!!!
We keep trying.
Dan
 
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Sent one expressing concern that it will negatively affect my business in FL as some of my suppliers of magazine parts processing have facilities in CO for testing.

Now to figure out who in FL could help with this interstate commerce problem :)

The law is to unclear to be able to safely order blanks or stampings from CO based suppliers.
 
If you live anywhere in this area, please plan on being there. Sixty-five was a terrible showing, and I know we can do better. She's got to know that we're serious and numerous.
AWESOME turnout today! The meeting room was packed to capacity. In fact , the entire fourth floor was packed, probably at least 400 people there.

I'm not sure how much good it did, because of a couple of her comments that were passed back to us; "I admire President Obama." and "These laws will keep guns out of the hands of criminals".

Anybody who was actually in the meeting room, how did things go in there?
 
It doesn't look like there are any anti-gun freedom bills scheduled to be heard by the senate for the next month. The schedule opens up the farther out you look though. Just a heads up. Everybody keep writing your senators and the governer and keep your eyes open in case something comes up.
 
Larry Ashcraft - Couldn't get into the room on Saturday to talk to Giron (the paper said there were 750 people there!), but you'll never guess whose range she was at on Sunday, shooting with some old ladies from the town hall. I was really impressed UNTIL the face-to-face conversation that we had with her afterwards. She spent about an hour and a half trying to convince US that WE were wrong about the four bills! She even brought out the Biden statement, almost verbatim, about the Constitution allowing the government to regulate what kind of weapons civilians could have (no tanks, nukes, etc.), so they basically could regulate whatever they want. I don't think we can count on Giron to back us up on any of these bills.

Oh, she also mentioned that the state Senate planned on introducing four NEW bills, addressing the mental health and drug-induced aspects of violent crime, sometime in this session, but I bet we never see them.

Looks like we've got to work on someone else's Senator, cuz ours is useless.
 
I was recently forwarded this response from an (R) CO State Representative,

"I have been fighting the good fight for our 2nd Amendment rights in the House along with my fellow Republicans. However, the Dems have been outvoting us at every turn. The fight on the House floor is over for now, but the battle will go on. The Senate has to hear the bills and the Governor will have to sign them. Keep working on our opponents!

According to my Republican Senate colleagues, the Senators that might be persuaded by sending e-mails and letters or making calls would be: Senators Mary Hodge, Cheri Jahn, Andy Kerr, Jeanne Nicholson, Gail Schwartz, and Lois Tochtrop.

Below are their email addresses, phone numbers, and Capitol address. Please contact them.
[email protected] Phone: 303-866-4855
[email protected] Phone: 303-866-4856
[email protected] Phone: 303-866-4859
[email protected] Phone: 303-866-4873
[email protected] Phone: 303-866-4871
[email protected] Phone: 303-866-4863
"

If you contact them, please be POLITE. Remember, the objective is to persuade them to vote against these bills.

It might not be a bad idea to mention that Colorado is not NY or CA and the people who voted for them were not thinking about gun control at the time. "Please think rationally about these proposals: they will fail to stop further mass killings and the fact that you supported them instead of finding real solutions will be a future source of political embarrassment."
 
I don't think I've ever seen a fax number for any of our legislators. For whatever it's worth, e-mails and regular old letters seem to get to the CO reps pretty reliably and fast.
 
I found 303-866-2218 as the general capitol fax number.

The address of the capitol is:
<Senator or Rep name>
State Capitol
200 E Colfax
Denver CO 80203


btw, there was yet another bill introduced in the senate. This one is a good one. Everyone will especially love how broadly an assault weapon is defined and how the law states that they are highly desired by criminals...

SB13-196 Assault Weapon Responsibility Act
 
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There are three Denver area town halls this Saturday, 2/2/13. I hope to see some of you at one or all of them.

More info at: http://www.rmgo.org/

Sen. Cheri Jahn & Sen. Andy Kerr
9:30am-11:00am
Lakewood Cultural Center
470 S. Allison Parkway
Lakewood, CO 80226

Sen. Morgan Carroll
11:00am-12:00pm
Smoky Hill Library
5430 S. Biscay Circle
Centennial, CO 80015

Sen. Jeanne Nicholson
2:00pm-4:00pm
Columbine Library
7706 W. Bowles Avenue
Littleton, CO 80123
 
From Senator Ted Harvey
Thank you for your email. I can't express how deeply I appreciate you
taking your time to contact me regarding the Democrats' unprecedented attack
on our right to self-protection.

This nationwide effort, being pushed and financed by New York Mayor Michael
Bloomberg, must be stopped. The fact that the White House is having Vice
President Joe Bidden personally calling Colorado Democrat legislators and
pressuring them to vote for these radical bills is unacceptable!!!

Like you, I am saddened by the tragic events here in Aurora and Newtown,
Connecticut, but we are Coloradoans and we can take care of our own. I have
personally spent time with Aurora community to support them during this
horrific healing process. My family and I pray for them and all the victims
of these tragic murders. Like Governor Hickenlooper said after the Aurora
shooting, however, there is no law that we could pass that would have
stopped this sick and evil person from acting out on his evil intentions.
Certainly putting more feel good, legal red tape on law abiding citizens
will do nothing to stop the evils of gun violence.

ALL of the gun bills in the Senate will be heard in TWO committees on
MONDAY, March 4 at 1:30.

Judiciary Committee (Old Supreme Court Chambers, second floor of the
Capitol)
SB 195--CCW training
SB 196--Assault Weapons ban
HB 1224--Limiting the size of magazines
SB ?--Prohibition of gun possession while under a restraining order

State Affairs Committee (Senate Committee RM 356, third floor of the
Capitol)
HB 1226 Prohibiting Concealed Carry on college campus.
HB 1228 Background fees (Poll Tax)
HB 1229 Universal Background Checks

Each witness in each committee will be given a number indicating the order
in which they will testify (think Deli Counter numbered tickets). Each
witness will be given THREE (3) minutes TOTAL to speak on any/all of the
bills being heard before the that specific committee. This will hopefully
allow all interested citizens the ability to testify before both committees
with the knowledge that they will not lose their place in line in either of
the two committees.

Please have your comments well prepared and practiced to ensure that they
are within the allowed three minute time period.

If you are unable to attend on Monday afternoon please feel free to call or
email any of the members of the two committee and let them know your
position on the bills.

Judiciary
Chairman Guzman--303-866-4862 [email protected]
Vice Chairman Ulibarri--303-866-4857 [email protected]
Senator Aguilar--303-866-4852 [email protected]
Senator King--303-866-3077 [email protected]
Senator Lundberg--303-866-4853 [email protected]

State, Veterans and Military Affairs
Chairman Giron--303-866-4878 [email protected]
Vice Chairman Jones--303-866-5291 [email protected]
Senator Crowder--303-866-4875 [email protected]
Senator Harvey--303-866-4881 [email protected]
Senator Hudak--303-866-4840 [email protected]

SEE YOU ON MONDAY!!!
Sincerely,

Ted Harvey
Colorado Senator
(SD-30, Douglas County)
 
I got this today from the Governor, doesn't really say much other than he himself didn't read what I wrote him.

Dear Doug:

Thank you for writing regarding gun control in Colorado. This is an important
subject, and we appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts and
concerns.

Over the past year in Colorado and across the nation, we have experienced an
unprecedented level of tragedy due to gun violence. The shooting that occurred
in Aurora on the night of July 20, 2012, is an event that will remain in our
hearts and minds forever. And while our lives will never be the same again,
these experiences showed the strength and resilience of individuals to come
together as a community. Now, as a community, we must come together to find ways
we can prevent similar tragedies in the future.

Your letter is one of thousands we have received offering thoughts on everything
from banning assault weapons, to increasing mental health availability, to the
rights of citizens to carry concealed weapons. The diversity of opinions on how
best to address this issue is proof positive that we should not shy away from
this discussion. We are confident that through thoughtful and mindful debate we
can find reasonable solutions that respect the rights of law-abiding Coloradans
to own firearms while maintaining the health and safety of our communities.

In Colorado, individuals purchasing firearms at firearms dealerships and gun
shows undergo background checks, and we believe that universal background checks
will help ensure that guns don’t fall into the hands of those who would use them
to harm themselves or others. This is a multifaceted issue and part of this
dialogue should focus on mental health access. In addition to addressing
firearms, we have also asked the Colorado General Assembly to support a
comprehensive overhaul of our state’s mental health system so we can better
deliver support and services to people sooner rather than later, and provide
appropriate interventions.

This is a conversation that will continue throughout the course of this
legislative session, so we also encourage you to share your thoughts with your
legislators. To contact the House of Representatives, please call 303-866-2904.
To contact the Senate, please call 303-866-2316. These contacts will direct your
call to the appropriate office. Or, you can find your legislators online at
http://www.colorado.gov/esri/webmaps/my-hood.html?webmap-id=a4838d49acca478e82f453d209bc81d9


Once again, thank you for your input, and for taking the time to contact our
office. We will keep your thoughts in mind as we move forward.

Sincerely,


Office of Governor John W. Hickenlooper
 
At least one of the hearings has been moved up to 10:30. If you are planning on being there, I'd double check the schedule.....
 
Talked to several Senators today. It was productive..

It looks like we have 2 Dem Senators who will vote against 1224. We only need 3 to defeat any bill.

We spoke to another 6 or 7 and I think there is a pretty good chance we can get at least 1 or 2 to vote with us on 1224. I can't say who those are but the lists of Senators a couple pages back is a good one to use:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

The key will be sending POLITE messages from mainly constituents of their districts, or anyone.

The Campus Concealed Carry bill has odds about the same as 1224.

We will almost certainly lose UBC's. I am not giving up but the odds are much worse on that one.

There is a lot of criticism at the Capitol about the Senate Bill on "Assault Weapon Liability." I don't know where the votes will stand on it.

Sen Ulibarri will almost certainly vote for them all. He complained to us about getting death threats.

If someone involved in the recalls could contact me via email ASAP I have a House Rep contact to give you.
 
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Greater Denver Ministerial Alliance.
http://www.colorado.edu/odece/downloads/GreaterMetroDenverMinisterialAllianceJun05.pdf

This group is supporting Rep Fields in her personal vendetta against gun owners.
If you go to one of these churches you may want to have a word with your pastor and let them know that while you do not condone those who make personal threats against a state legislator you also do not condone a state legislator taking personal issues into the state legislative process.

Fields has admitted publicly that her son's death has made her biased against lawful gun owners - this is not about the law for her, it's retribution for her son's death. That is a serious breech of ethics in my opinion. She is harassing me and my family to satisfy a personal crusade.
 
I might remind the alliance that a off duty Denver Cop had to take out one of there own a couple of months back on the church parking lot!!! Should we give him back and refer to the legislature?
Dan
 
A copy of my most recent letter to state Senator's with one response back so far.

Also there is a decent article about Guns in Southern Colorado in today's Denver Post, that I thought some of you guy's may appreciate.

http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage...me-way-life-rural-colorado?source=rss_igoogle

Thank you for participating in the legislative process, I value your input.
I am in the process of reviewing these bills and the legal opinions and research around the policies they propose. I will look at all sides before I make any decisions.
Please feel free to contact me again with any further concerns.

Sincerely,

Senator Irene Aguilar
www.aguilarfor32.com


Sent from my iPad


Dear Senator,

Please protect my Second Amendment rights and vote NO on the current crop of confusing, senseless and abusive gun laws.

I urge you instead to support the Second Amendment and the Colorado Constitution, and seek solutions that will provide us with sound law that is based on logic and reason rather than emotionalism and a decade’s long agenda by extremists to take away and infringe upon the rights of law abiding citizens.

Keeping repeat offenders locked up, enforcement of our current laws, promoting lawful concealed carry and taking a serious look at the current sad state of our mental health system is a much better solution to reducing violent crime than punishing law abiding firearms owners.

Some of these proposed laws may even endanger law abiding citizens, not to mention costing Colorado thousands of jobs. When the hunting community is factored in, the loss to our economy could be staggering. Hunting in Colorado is a $1 billion industry and many hunters are already saying they will no longer travel to, and hunt in Colorado due to the confusing and abusive nature of these laws that are being proposed.

Our background check system could be upgraded to allow those with CCW permits to purchase a firearm without a background check, helping to reduce the load and offset costs on our current system.

I would strongly urge all Colorado lawmakers to take a big step back and work on some cohesive and intelligent laws that will actually reduce crime and protect the citizens of this state rather than infringe upon the rights of the law abiding citizens

If abusive, ineffective gun laws work so well, will you please explain to me why Chicago, New York City and Washington D.C are some of the most dangerous cities in our nation?

My neighbors, friends, family and co-workers are paying attention and we will vote and support those who support our Second Amendment rights in the next election cycle.

Sincerely,

Jitterbug
 
ignore them

I would ignore these laws. "I sold all my guns before the law passed, and those mags; I didn't ever load more than 5 rounds in them." If the law is ignored it is probally uninforceable. Just my guess?
 
I would ignore these laws. "I sold all my guns before the law passed, and those mags; I didn't ever load more than 5 rounds in them." If the law is ignored it is probally uninforceable. Just my guess?
exactly what will happen. "I don't own any firearms and no, you may not come into my house to check"
 
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