Colt 1911's in 2007 - Buy or not Buy ?

Would you buy a 2007 production Colt 1911 ?

  • Yes - Today's Colt 1911's are as good as any

    Votes: 57 49.1%
  • Maybe - If I could find one at a reasonable price

    Votes: 29 25.0%
  • Probably not - Colt's 1911 quality is still questionable

    Votes: 12 10.3%
  • Never - Other 1911 makers beat out a Colt easy

    Votes: 18 15.5%

  • Total voters
    116
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I've been looking to purchase a NIB 1911 for some time now and I've been reading good reports about the Colt Firearm Co. of today and it's current quality of 2007 produced 1911's.

So the poll is about your view of the quality and desirabilty of Colt 1911's produced at the present time. Not the past Colt Co. with the poor QC in the 1980's & 1990's (I had a dud Colt 1911 9mm then), but the Colt Co. of today.

Thanks for your vote and/or thoughts.
 
Colt pistols of today are some of the best pistols they have ever made.
Forged receivers and slides and fitted bu gunsmiths using quality parts.
I believe Colt makes the nicest Government Model on the market.
 
I think the quality is right up there. Plus, you just can't go wrong with the Colt name if you should decide to sell it at a later date.
 
I don't care how good that are, I wouldn't buy from Colt because they abandoned handgunners and stopped making everything but 1911's. The Python and Anaconda were two of the finest firearms ever made. The day Colt pulled the plug on them is the day I pulled the plug on Colt. :fire:
 
By today's standards, Colt puts out a pretty good 1911 style pistol...

But then today's standards aren't very high.

For the price of a new Colt Government Model you can buy a used older one, entirely made out of "real steel" parts, with a forged frame, slide, barrel, and several minor parts. The rest of what's in it isn't metal injected molded.

If you must have a new pistol, Colt isn't a bad way to go if you can afford one.

But the Old Fuff doesn't necessarily have to have a new pistol...

Just a quality one. ;)
 
I did buy a Colt 1911 in 2007. It was a lemon. That particular one, at least, was very poorly made. It failed with nearly every mag. It felt very rough, and I kept having to push it into battery. I sent it back to the factory. It came back a little better, but not much. In the end I got rid of it and bought a glock.

Pity. I really like 1911s.

Edited to add: Several other people on the m1911 forum had similar experiences. I should have gone there before I bought, rather than after.
 
Obviously there are horror stories for everyone's version of the 1911. Springfields, Kimbers, Colts, and even Paras all have their share of bad lemons from time to time. That's just the nature of the modern 1911. All the "production" guns are the same, the only real difference is the name on the slide, and since I feel they're all the same, why don't you go with the original name on said slide. Buy the Colt if you want a 1911.
 
If I want to keep a gun for posterity and hope the value goes up in the future, I'll get a Colt. If I want a gun that I will enjoy shooting and keep with me for defense, I'll drop he Colt and choose another.
 
While on the hunt for my latest 1911, I picked up a Colt and checked the slide to frame fit.

It was loose to say the least.

I passed it back to the sales guy and he says "Damn, that IS loose"!

That particular handgun would likely do very well as a reliable defensive arm, but it won't be a target puncher.

Depends on what you are going to use it for, I guess.
 
I've bought several Colt 1911s in the last two years and I'm quite happy with them. :) I believe they are still a good buy. By comparison, I used to have two Kimbers that would break alot.

Tex
 
What with all of the other manufacturers who picked up on Colts mistakes through the years and improved the product, I see no reason to buy a new Colt unless it's a good deal.

Though it pains me to say it, due to varying decisions regarding their products through the years, Colt is, to me, "just" another 1911 manufacturer anymore, and no longer the best out there.

Older, used colts, OTOH.....
 
It's all about money! Pick up a Colt and something else (KImber, Springer, etc)
Compare.. you'll quickly discover that you get what you pay for. The "Mil Spec" types with standard 1911 features don't compare to custom guns. Colt and anybody else can produce a quality gun with the right garnishment, and the price will be very similar.:)
 
While on the hunt for my latest 1911, I picked up a Colt and checked the slide to frame fit.

I did the same thing. Local shop had an entire shelf of new Colts. I so wanted the quality to be there. It was not. I put every one back on the shelf.

Maybe next year...

Joe
 
When a brand-new, blued .38 Super Colt GM showed up at the local gunshop recently I had similar questions about current Colt quality. For some reason, new Colts are rare around here, but they sell quickly and I had to make up my mind fast about whether to buy this one. The dealer let me field-strip it and examine it carefully, and to my eye it was made very, very well. Fit and finish looked excellent. In fact, the only fault I could see was the head of the pony was stamped lightly in the new roll mark. I bought it, but due to the $700+ price tag had to put it on layaway and pay it out. So, how does it shoot? I won't know for three months till it's paid off! I had to base my buying decision on appearance, but regardless of how nice it looks, only by shooting it, of course, will I have proof of its real quality.
 
The Colt series 70 mil spec is one nice 1911. they hold their value than the new ones.
 
browning's boxcar

the old series 70 colts, in govt mdl, commander, combat commander, and gold cup were all good functioning firearms. this based on units i have owned and those i have fired extensively. they were bad about dumping the front (staked) sights after extended use, however. also the issued front sights were to short, and narrow. most of the new 1911 clones have dovetailed front sights, get one on your new purchase.

as above stated, i too was not impressed with the series 80/90 offerings. not due to poor functioning/quality, but the resurection of the schwarz saftey system. lots of folks don't know that colt deemed this system unworthy of continuing before WWII. col. cooper wouldda called it a "cure for a problem that doesn't exist." still i haven't had any of the newer series that wouldn't function for me. a friend had a series 90, 1991A1 mdl combat commander that required herculean effort to cycle the trigger. but we fixed that easily with an allen wrench applied to the trigger overtravel adjustment screw.

the major selling point for a boxcar is the sweet single action trigger, and accuracy/speed derived frome same. train in safe use practices, and forget the add-on saftey devices. my dear departed mother usta say that trying to make a better idiot proof device was an exercise in futility. simply because the people engaged in these activities were out numbered 2 to 1 by those trying to make a better idiot.

same-o for the new kimbers. the pre "II" mdls have all done what i hoped they would do, including not accidentally discharging. the warrior is the only non-block firing pin mdl i know of that they currently offer. it IS a nice handgun, more the pity.

same-o for springfield armory. good quality iron here. i have even shot 500rds through a rock island armory commander sized mdl, just for reliability testing. it misfired the first three rounds, untill the shipping cosmoline got plowed outta the way in -20 degree alaska interior winter weather. the rest cycled fine, without cleaning in between. the front sight was way to tall on it however, and it shot about 10" low @ 20'.

i'd hafta say the real choice for you to make is whatcha wanna do with said aquisition. if target grade accuracy is yer main concern, heed an above posting about loose slide/frame fitting. get one with 1/8" wide front sight, and adjustable rear.

if it's only to save yer assets, SHTF, a loose fit will make the firearm LESS likely to jam if mung and spoo get introduced into the weapon. don't kid yourself into believing that you'd never let this happen, even in a firefight. fixed sights, with above mentioned 1/8" blade width are better suited to self defence uses. as are tritium element inserts in front and rear. i have lately become a fan of the light rail frames, in conjunction with a surefire X200.

find friends who own the particular iron you are interested in, and try them prior to laying out your hard earned money... even this is not an absolute proof that whatcha buy won't be a lemon. i've been lucky, judging from some of the postings i read above.

gunnie
 
I voted probably not, but in fact I bought a stainless Commander a while back and its been great. But I did have to look and pass on several to find a flawless example. Look for off center recoil spring plug, gap between bottom of barrel bushing and slide, or cockeyed pins. To name some of the things that have been getting out that shouldn't. Maybe there is hope as the Gold Cups I've been looking at recently all seem pretty good.

If you think you might want to sell it eventually, Colt is the way to go as they still command the highest resale value.

Slide to frame fit is way over rated as a quality figure of merit and is why the 1911's reputation for reliability now suffers -- they are supposed to rattle when shaken. Its the barrel/bushing to slide fit that dominates accuracy. Removing the rattle decreases reliability for a very minor increase in mechanical accuracy that few shooters can actually take advantage of.

--wally.
 
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I have little experience with the current Series 80s - my father has an XSE commander in .38 Super that's nice (except for those fugly front serrations), but I've only shot it once.

I bought a new-production Series 70 recently, and I give that one a great recommendation. Fit and finish are excellent, the sights are fine for what they are (high-profile mil-spec - no dots, etc.), excellent trigger out of the box. Couldn't be happier for the $755 I paid. If you're looking at Colts, my preference would be for one of these new Series 70s.
 
as above stated, i too was not impressed with the series 80/90 offerings. not due to poor functioning/quality, but the resurection of the schwarz saftey system. lots of folks don't know that colt deemed this system unworthy of continuing before WWII. col. cooper wouldda called it a "cure for a problem that doesn't exist." still i haven't had any of the newer series that wouldn't function for me. a friend had a series 90, 1991A1 mdl combat commander that required herculean effort to cycle the trigger. but we fixed that easily with an allen wrench applied to the trigger overtravel adjustment screw.

Er... the Series 80 ('Series 90' isn't a real Colt 1911 product - it referred to some kind DAO pistol) 1911s don't use the Schwarz safety. Kimber uses it, and Smith & Wesson use a modified version, but the Series 80 is a completely different firing pin safety system, with a much better track record for use.
 
Series 70 reissue in STS. Love mine so much that I even sleep with it. I mean, with mine at the bedside. :uhoh: Guess no one will ever ask to borrow my Colt again! :scrutiny:

I put mine through a 3,000 round, no-clean, oil-only every 100 to 150 rounds torture test. No failures at all.

Donesn't get better. I did the same with my G17. I wanted to see which would fail first. Neither failed.

Doc2005
 
The Colt Defender is also a Series 90. Colts of the 40's did use the Swartz safety but it was dropped.
Slide to frame fit have very little bearing on accuracy in a Government Model. Barrel to bushing to slide is the most important fit.
Colt still uses forged slides and frames as well as only 2 mim parts (sear and disconnecter).
Colt dropped the double action revolver line due to cost vs interest.
All Government Models made today are not the same.
 
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