Columbus, OH cop shot by assault rifle

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They don't say it in the article I found, but said it was an "assault rifle" on the radio.

http://www.dispatch.com/default.php (link to video on front page)

Police, suspect shoot it out during wild chase; 5 hurt

Columbus police gunned down a Hilltop man last night after he shot two people on Oakley Avenue and led officers on a high-speed chase that had bullets whizzing through North Side neighborhoods.

The chase ended in a crash and shootout. Four other people, including a police officer, were shot during the rampage.
 
Monday, July 12, 2004
Matthew Marx
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

JEFF HINCKLEY | DISPATCH

Columbus police gunned down a Hilltop man last night after he shot two people on Oakley Avenue and led officers on a high-speed chase that had bullets whizzing through North Side neighborhoods.

The chase ended in a crash and shootout. Four other people, including a police officer, were shot during the rampage.

The gunman fired an AK-47 assault rifle from a 1988 Jeep Cherokee wagon as he sped through a residential neighborhood north of Morse Road. As many as five officers returned fire, police said.

"We only had .45s," said Sgt. Brent Mull, spokesman for the Columbus Division of Police. "We were outgunned, but he was outmanned."

The suspect, Alawwa Knowles, 23, of 61 S. Oakley Ave., was in serious condition at Riverside Methodist Hospital late last night,

Mull said the suspect faces at least three charges of felonious assault as well as attempted felonious assault.

Police gave this account:

About 7:24 p.m., two people were shot during a fight , at 353 S. Oakley on the West Side. The victims were taken to Grant Medical Center. One was a 16-year-old boy.

A black Jeep Cherokee was reported fleeing from the scene. A short time later, officers spotted the Jeep heading north on I-71 near 11 th Avenue, and they began to pursue.

The driver pulled off onto Morse Road. Police Sgt. Terry McConnell was on Morse at N. Fourth Street trying to lay down road spikes to stop the Jeep when he was fired at.

Officers could be heard on the police scanner yelling, "He’s shooting, get out of the way!"

Cruisers tried to close in on the Jeep on Morse Road. The driver weaved on and off several residential streets, firing at officers.

At some point, the driver turned down Brittany Road, firing at officers who were returning fire, witnesses said. One of the bullets entered a house at 2107 Brittany, grazing a woman on the neck.

Several cars and homes on the street were struck by bullets, witnesses say.

Janak Patel, of 2018 Brittany Rd., was on his computer when he heard the sirens and the gunshots. He looked out his window to see a man driving east about 50 to 60 mph, holding the steering wheel in his left hand and leaning out the driver’s-side window firing shots, he said.

"His left hand is on the wheel, his right hand is holding what looks like a machine gun," Patel said. "My eyes were just fixed on the gun. He’s firing shots and he’s ducking."

Patel was surveying his car, which had a broken windshield and a shattered rear window. It was unclear whether the damage was from one bullet or two.

The gunman made his way onto Kilbourne Avenue and was headed west when he crashed in the 2300 block. He jumped out of the car firing, grazing one officer in the head and arm, Mull said.

That officer and several others returned fire, and the gunman fell to the ground, witnesses said.

"Cops were on him quick," said Bobby Rothgeb, 17, who heard the shots and came outside to see the officers swarm in on the suspect.

By this time, numerous cruisers had closed in on the North Side neighborhood. Backtracking the pursuit path, piecing together the damage and interviewing officers who were involved in the pursuit continued into the early morning.

A bullet struck a Brittany Road home about 2 feet above a window to a basement where children watched Harry Potter.

"You don’t want people to think you can get away with things without police shooting back at you," said their father. But the man wondered if everyone would have been better off if they had let the gunman go. "That speeding car is just as bad a weapon."

Mull said officers had to continue to pursue the gunman because he was an imminent threat to the public. "If he has a reckless disregard for life," then officers have an obligation to stop him, he said.

Dispatch reporter Rasha Aly contributed to this story .

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"You don’t want people to think you can get away with things without police shooting back at you," said their father. But the man wondered if everyone would have been better off if they had let the gunman go. "That speeding car is just as bad a weapon."
Yah know? As far as chases for minor infractions go, I hear yah. But gee...he already gunned down 3 people tonight. Lets not give him a chance to get four.

Mike
 
Also, from the looks of things, the cop was hit by a ricochet, or merely grazed. The other three people were apparently more seriously shot up.

Mike
 
;)

Maybe. :D

Me? I was grilling and drinking margaritas on the back lawn. No paperwork for me, no sir. ;)

Mike
 
Some of them would also have shotguns, too.

But yeah, if someone could convince the Mayor if the utility of the patrol rifle, I'll buy him a beer.

Mike ;)
 
Is that really all it's worth to ya?

Yeah, Seattle just changed within the last year... used to be every car had a shotgun (assigned to the car, not the officer). Shotguns now optional, assigned to specific individuals, AR15s becoming standard for the backup weapon in the car.
 
Coronach

Some of them would also have shotguns, too.

As I recall from the North Hollywood affair, LAPD policy was to only put shotguns in the trunks of supervisor's cars, and only 00 buckshot was authorized. Slugs were not available.

My five year experience as a firearms instructor for the Sheriff is that it is a rare deputy who thinks of his shotgun as weapon of choice in a gunfight. By nature of his training, an average peace officer is conditioned to turn to his pistol or revolver when facing deadly danger. I tried to change that thinking, but the department's training policy guaranteed that every range day (every two months) would find the deputy practicing or qualifying with his handgun, but only once a year would he be required to drag out the shotgun and work with it. We even had a lieutenant who went ballistic when he inspected a patrol car's shotgun and found slugs in the magazine tube instead of 00 buckshot.

After the lieutenant calmed down, I asked him where did it say in the Policy and Procedure Manual that we couldn't load our shotguns with slugs? He didn't know where and he certainly couldn't find it because the rule didn't exist. He was merely reacting with the "We've always done it this way" approach to command and decision making.

I appreciated the capabilities of the shotgun, but I was a minority. Of course, there is a difference between the adaptation of the duck hunter's favorite and a shotgun designed for combat. My department had bead sighted Model 870s with standard length stocks. My personal shotgun is a ghost ring sighted Mossberg 500 with a shortened pull stock, Side Saddle shell carrier, and mounted Tac-Star flashlight. When even the staunchest shotgun hating deputy tried my weapon, he or she liked it and wondered why the department didn't buy a similar model instead of the duck hunter's weapon.

The reluctance to go to the patrol rifle in many departments is because it is thought of as a long range weapon. The ever litigation conscious command staff fears stray rounds arcing into the next county and killing some grandmother at her breakfast table. Even the most clueless member of management still thinks of the shotgun as litigation safe because it is thought of as a short range weapon. Somewhere in his limited memory the policy making chief still recalls from his cadet days that the maximum effective combat range of 00 buckshot is 35-50 yards.

Pilgrim
 
:eek: That was just down the street from me. I didn't even hear the getto birds or sirens. Great now that it gets out that this guy had an AK-47 "type" people will think it was me. :rolleyes:
 
Columbus, OH cop shot by assault rifle

Guns don't shoot people. The officer may have been shot by a criminal weilding an "assault rifle", but the gun didn't do the shooting.

The media has been attributing actions to inanimate objects to make the objects seem evil for way too long. Let's not do it here as well.
 
Not only a criminal, but a criminal driving a JEEP CHEROKEE WAGON:what:
These are high powered SUV's weighing in at 2 TONS of lethal metal that connot be stopped by police barriers. These dangerous military style assault vehicles are the choice of killers everywhere. They could easily crash through the fence of a schoolyard, leaving hundreds of mangled children in their wake. We must do SOMETHING to get these killing machines off the streets, despite the powerful SUV lobby that pumps millions of $$ into the pockets of the uncaring selfish right wing radicals.
 
The gunman fired an AK-47 assault rifle from a 1988 Jeep Cherokee wagon as he sped through a residential neighborhood north of Morse Road.
So is it safe to assume that this was a select fire weapon or is this another chance to convince the public into thinking all military looking rifles are the same as machine guns? :rolleyes:
 
Coronach,

The mayor will never allow shotguns assigned to each cruiser. They were taken out in the late 60's after the riots. We were just happy to see an additional one added per precinct for the senior officer to carry (unless that has changed). It's just not a progressive department when it comes to fire power. Of course that can be said about many departments. Seems the smaller cities (suburbs) are better equipped.
 
Probably not an assault rifle

Assault rifles are illegal and have been banned from import and manufacture since 1994. Guns made after that are not, by the definition in Federal law, assault rifles.

So unless the gun was made prior to 1994, it is not an assault rifle, and the Federal government says so.

Jim
 
OH25shooter,

Not much has changed. Some precincts have one long gun, and of course the sergeant has one. Most precincts have two...bringing the whopping number of shotguns carried to three. And the sarge is always in the building, so...yeah. Two.

If you're lucky one of the guns will be clear to go on a gun run.

Mike
 
Seattle's also big on the "Less Lethal" munitions... the dedicated shotguns for that are pretty silly looking- all bright orange synthetic stocks...
 
Yeah, but you really don't wanna grab the wrong gun in that situation, do you? ;)

BOOM

"Oops."

:eek:

Mike
 
Yeah, but the gun's no different... seems like if ya just had veeeery clearly labelled ammunition, the same gun could multitask... I dunno...
 
Seattle's also big on the "Less Lethal" munitions... the dedicated shotguns for that are pretty silly looking- all bright orange synthetic stocks...

Not too silly looking when that fin stabilized projectile hits you dead nuts though :D
 
Nah, the launcher for those actually looks pretty cool... big black thing with a drum magazine.

The shotguns are mostly for the 'beanbag' kinda things, as I recall (from the Community Police Academy class last Fall).
 
RileyMC,

Not only a criminal, but a criminal driving a JEEP CHEROKEE WAGON
These are high powered SUV's weighing in at 2 TONS of lethal metal that connot be stopped by police barriers. These dangerous military style assault vehicles are the choice of killers everywhere. They could easily crash through the fence of a schoolyard, leaving hundreds of mangled children in their wake. We must do SOMETHING to get these killing machines off the streets, despite the powerful SUV lobby that pumps millions of $$ into the pockets of the uncaring selfish right wing radicals.

They can have my Jeep Cherokee when they pry it from my cold, dead , er body? When they pry my cold dead body from it with the jaws of life? No. Hmm, I've gotta work on that.
Thay can't have my Jeep.:D
 
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