Congressman Massie to introduce home-state concealed carry bill

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Update: Congressman Thomas Massie, Chairman of the Congressional Second Amendment Caucus, introduced H.R. 2909, the D.C. Personal Protection Reciprocity Act - https://massie.house.gov/newsroom/p...es-the-dc-personal-protection-reciprocity-act

Original Cosponsors include Reps Trent Franks (R-AZ), Scott Perry (R-PA), Steve Chabot (R-OH), Jeff Duncan (R-SC), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), Doug LaMalfa (R-CA), Ted Budd (R-NC), Barry Loudermilk (R-GA), Mark Meadows (R-NC), Jody Hice (R-GA), Justin Amash (R-MI), Mo Brooks (R- AL), Alex Mooney (R-WV), Rod Blum (R-IA), Ken Buck (R-CO), Todd Rokita (R-IN), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Keith Rothfus (R-PA) David Schweikert (R-AZ), Rick Allen (R-GA), Tedd Yoho (R-FL), Randy Weber (R-TX), and Bill Posey (R-FL).

I have a feeling that this bill will get serious support from many members of Congress as it affects their personal safety and their families' safety. This bill should help H.R. 38, Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017

"Everyone has the right to defend themselves" - Congressman Massie to introduce home-state concealed carry bill that will allow CCW holders in other states to carry in Washington DC



Congressman Collins (Sponsor of a CCW bill) wants to carry gun after Scalise shooting for self defense - Can't carry a gun in Washington DC now
 
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Fmr. Rep. Tom Delay - I carried a gun after 1998 Capitol Hill shooting
 
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Speedo66 wrote:
It's simply amazing how when politicians feel threatened, gun law change may be brought about.
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Yeah, but don't look for those changes to be narrowly crafted to principally benefit them and their inner-circle. After all, as the bumper sticker says, "Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants".
 
 
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Congressman Massie is my congressman in this part of Kentucky. He manages to get the word out by getting interviewed on national radio and TV shows. He often posts to Facebook giving alerts about some upcoming interview.
 
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Yeah, but don't look for those changes to be narrowly crafted to principally benefit them and their inner-circle. After all, as the bumper sticker says, "Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants".
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The sentiments in your first sentence don't seem to match those in your second sentence. Extra word in the 1st that shouldn't be there?
 
(6/22/17) Lifezette interview with Representative Massie - http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/kentucky-lawmaker-wants-members-of-congress-armed/

He told Lifezette he is getting cosponsors daily and have at least 30 cosponsors by time of interview. He got broad support when he spoke at the Republican Conference and believes every Republican would vote for it and many Democrats also.

"I'm not looking for special privileges for members of Congress — I'm looking to reaffirm the right to keep and bear arms for all members of the public"

(6/25/17) Wall Street Journal (by Thomas Massie): Congressman, Defend Thyself - Many lawmakers have gun permits, but we can't use them in D.C. - https://www.wsj.com/articles/congressman-defend-thyself-1498424820
 
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If I'm reading this right it only applies to carrying in DC? Not much of a help to the rest of the residents of the US who don't spend much time in DC, but would like to carry outside their licensing jurisdiction.

I'm shocked to see it's narrowly tailored to help those non residents who frequent DC, like hmm, say, members of congress.
 
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Congress has the authority to legislate in this area pursuant to Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress the authority to “exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever over such District as may become the Seat of the Government of the United States.”
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This legislation will be a chip shot for congress to get passed. It doesn't affect anyone but people in congress while they are in DC. Congress governs DC so they can change the carry laws there if they wish. The mayor, chief of police or any other politician in DC can't stop it. I'm not sure they would even try as it won't really affect the gun ban or the permit process there for the average citizen.

HR 38 is a different story. If you want to see how much the AG folks hate this bill all you have to do is read their drivel about how bad it is.

https://everytownresearch.org/conce...y-h-r-38-overriding-state-public-safety-laws/

They will be spending millions of dollars lobbying congress trying to defeat this bill. The AG Democrats didn't have any reservations about gutting states rights to regulate the last time an AR ban was floated but now they are all for states rights. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
 
call me a skeptic and a naysayer, but i find it highly offensive these elected citizens are crafting a bill that makes them even more of a special class when it comes to defending their life and property etc.

meanwhile regular folks who cook and serve their food, clean their homes, fix their appliances and cars, and shine their shoes, etc arent being considered for the same right to defend themselves in dc. typical ruler attitudes.
 
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call me a skeptic and a naysayer, but i find it highly offensive these elected citizens are crafting a bill that makes them even more of a special class when it comes to defending their life and property etc.

meanwhile regular folks who cook and serve their food, clean their homes, fix their appliances and cars, and shine their shoes, etc arent being considered for the same right to defend themselves in dc. typical ruler attitudes.
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I think people will wake up pretty soon to this fact. It's elitist politics in it's finest form. If any congress person votes for HR 2909 and they don't vote for HR 38 you will know who the elitist are. There are many.
 
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I thought it was just for lawmakers, apparently it's for everyone with a permit.

Don't look for that to go anywhere. That would throw the door open for HR 38 and Democrats know that.

Probably won't get a single Democrat vote.
 
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H.R. 38 already has 3 Democrat cosponsors and 197 Republican cosponsors - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38/cosponsors

- Rep. Cuellar, Henry [D-TX]
- Rep. Peterson, Collin C. [D-MN]
- Rep. Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. [D-GA]


H.R. 2909 added 6 more cosponsors just yesterday now up to 79 cosponsors - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2909/cosponsors?r=21
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I was referring to HR 2909, not HR 38. So far HR 2909 doesn't have any dem support, but it's pretty early. My guess 2909 will get passed based on GOP majority. That's a pretty safe vote for a rep or senator because it doesn't affect any states ability to regulate. DC isn't a state and can't vote on it so no fallout there. HR 38 is a different ball game.
 
The Dems know HR2909 will get passed without them doing anything. We know Pelosi carries a gun, so no doubt at least she'll take advantage of it without exposing herself as being for it.
 
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H.R. 2909 would allow individuals, not just law makers, to carry in DC - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2909/text?r=21

"To require reciprocity between the District of Columbia and other States and jurisdictions with respect to the ability of individuals to carry certain concealed firearms, and for other purposes."
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good to know thanks for clarifying. course reciprocity would be state by state picking choosing like it works now between states so a state with more 2nd amendment attitides might not get reciprocity with dc? or does the bill make it do it for all states regardless....what about states without permits/licenses fir ccw or open carry? thank you for the details.
 
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The Dems know HR2909 will get passed without them doing anything. We know Pelosi carries a gun, so no doubt at least she'll take advantage of it without exposing herself as being for it.
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Exactly. If it involved CA having to accept reciprocity it would be an automatic no. CA excepts no ones permits just like DC. I believe CA is the only state that doesn't honor any other state permit. They might as well be another country.:(
 
I don't think Oregon has any reciprocity either. Or New York. Or Maryland. Illinois doesn't although it will allow people with out-of-state permits to carry guns in their cars. Fact I think most of the bad states don't have any reciprocity Hawaii New Jersey Etc
 
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I don't think Oregon has any reciprocity either. Or New York. Or Maryland. Illinois doesn't although it will allow people with out-of-state permits to carry guns in their cars. Fact I think most of the bad states don't have any reciprocity Hawaii New Jersey Etc
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Ooops, seems you're right. WA is almost as bad.
 
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