Vitter To Introduce Concealed Carry Reciprocity

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Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
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Wednesday, June 18, 2008


Senator David Vitter (R-LA) is planning to introduce a concealed carry
reciprocity bill next week.

Senator Vitter had been working closely with Gun Owners of America to draft
and file a reciprocity amendment a few weeks ago, but that amendment,
unfortunately, never saw the light of day -- thanks to powerful opponents
inside the Senate.

However, Sen. Vitter has continued undaunted and last week sent a Dear
Colleague letter to his fellow senators, asking them to cosponsor his
forthcoming bill, the "Respecting States Rights and Concealed Carry
Reciprocity Act."

The Vitter bill treats concealed carry permits much the same as drivers'
licenses, where one state's license is recognized in all other states.

In addressing the matter of reciprocity, the first concern of GOA and Sen.
Vitter is that it be done constitutionally and that it respects states'
rights.

Unlike another senate reciprocity measure, S. 388, Vitter's bill does not
establish "national standards" for concealed carry. It simply
says that
states that allow concealed carry must recognize the CCW permits of other
states.

Vitter's bill also respects the rights of states that allow concealed carry
without a permit. Citizens of Vermont and non-license holders in Alaska are
allowed to carry concealed without a permit. Under the Vitter bill, these
states would be recognized in the same manner as states that do issue
permits.

States that do not allow concealed carry at all are not forced, under the
Vitter bill, to recognize out-of-state permits. There are currently two such
states, Illinois and Wisconsin. While it is deplorable that these states
refuse to trust their citizens with firearms, this is an issue that has to
be dealt with at the state level.

Citizens should not be forced to sacrifice their right to self-defense at
the state line. The Vitter bill will allow more Americans to defend
themselves away from their home state.

Action: Please urge your two Senators to become original cosponsors of the
Vitter "Respecting States Rights and Concealed Carry Reciprocity
Act." You
can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators the pre-written
e-mail message below.


----- Prewritten letter -----

Dear Senator,

Senator David Vitter is planning to introduce a concealed carry reciprocity
bill next week.

The bill, the "Respecting States Rights and Concealed Carry Reciprocity
Act," will allow citizens who are permitted to carry concealed in
their home
state, to carry in all states that allow concealed carry.

This bill does not establish national concealed carry standards, but takes a
sound constitutional approach that respects states' rights.

I urge you to contact Senator Vitter and become an original cosponsor of
this legislation.

Sincerely,


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Just as a side note, here is Senator Vitter's website with a contact page...http://vitter.senate.gov/

While it is clear that he is already very passionate about our 2A rights, I'd be willing to bet that he appreciates hearing from those of us who support his work. Even just a quick friendly "thank you" message can mean a lot in this day and age where such niceties are long forgotten...
 
Pessimisstic comments aside, I hope you guys are hitting the link...http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm...and sending out those emails.

Gun Owners of America really couldn't make it any easier for you.

All you have to do is plug in your name and address and they automatically send the pre-written email to the appropriate representatives...
 
OMGOMGOMGOMG! I feel like a kid in a candy store! MARYLAND is a 'May-Issue' State! If I'm understanding this correctly that would mean that were I to possess and meet the standards for a FL out of state CCW then MD would HAVE to recognize my right to defend myself!

If I'm completely off please tell me as I don't need too many more bubbles to burst...but holy cow what a spot of good news.
 
While it may not directly help those people who's states are reluctant to issue CWLs, it's certainly a step in the right direction towards those (may-issue) states realising that they are in the minority these days.

Many people ask, "What about NY?", "What about CA?". If something like this proposed bill were to pass, you can be sure that some states would fight it for all they're worth, but that's a good thing. Those who wish to infringe upon our rights should be the ones fighting, not the other way around...

Hit that link.
Send those emails.
As of right now 171 people have viewed this thread.
How many took action?
 
I don't see how this is logistically feasible. Drivers licenses work because there are basically the same road rules for the whole country. All states drive on the right side of the road, all states have stop lights and stop signs, all states have speed limits that are pretty close to each other. Reciprocal drivers licenses work because driving doesn't change state to state.

But if CCW becomes reciprocal, how is one to trak the vastly different gun laws from state to state? What about states that require the model of gun you're carrying to be on the license? What about states that require things like 2 mechanical motions before firing? What about magazine size limits? And all of the OC vs printing variances?

If I drive to another state where their highway patrol is big on signaling while changing lanes, and my state's isn't, I can't use the "well my state is different" excuse with the officer. But the most I'll get is a small ticket/fine.

But with gun laws, the smallest infraction can be a massive life consuming legal battle.

If any sort of nationally recognized CCW is going to be initiated, common standards are going to have to come into play, just like with driving. And states that don't allow CCW at all are going to have be be dragged on board.

IMO, we already have a mandate that allows for national CCW. It's called the Second Amendment. Keep and bear arms. CCW and open carry are bearing arms. And any State in the Union has to follow the Constitution. Those states that don't allow the bearing of arms are in violation of the US Constitution.
 
it would sure kill utah and floridas economy since if you had a ccw from your home state you wouldn't have to get their's also i just returned from oregon and felt naked since i couldn't carry but my wife could, so she took care of me. it sure felt good to cross the calif state line so i could rearm:neener:
 
If any sort of nationally recognized CCW is going to be initiated, common standards are going to have to come into play, just like with driving. And states that don't allow CCW at all are going to have be be dragged on board.
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indeed, this isn't going to happen until there is @ least a modicum of similarity amongst the states

some states have higher training reqs and some have none
plus then what about may issue states versus shall issue?
are those of us in the ~40 or so shall issue states going to suddenly be able to carry in CA where only a handful of thousands of residents can carry?

i think the training/issuance standards need to be standardized to some degree to make this happen


i'll settle for national park carry first though :)
 
But if CCW becomes reciprocal, how is one to trak the vastly different gun laws from state to state? What about states that require the model of gun you're carrying to be on the license? What about states that require things like 2 mechanical motions before firing? What about magazine size limits? And all of the OC vs printing variances?
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I suppose it would have to be the person carrying concealed's responsibility to know and comply with the laws of where he was. If it's too much for some, then they are free to not carry in other states.Isee no reason that they cant look up and learn another states laws, afterall, they managed to learn thier own state's laws(or at least should have unless they aint too bright).

I dont see a problem. every state has TONS of differing laws on ALL kinds of things, not just guns. know the laws of where you are, or risk a run-in with the law.we all do it every time we go to another state, or even city. Jaywalking might not be a crime in one place, but might be so in another.not knowing is no excuse, you are expected to know the laws, regardless of what they pertain too.Women are allowed to go around in public topless in most, if not all, of Oregon, but if they do it in NYC, not knowing the local law wont be an excuse, and is likely to get them registered as a sex offender for life. (yes, simple nudity, with nothing even remotely sexual going on, and no children anywhere within miles, can, and has, gotten people on the sex offender list). To me, that seems pretty close to as harsh a punishemnt as breaking a ccw law in some place because you were too dumb or lazy to look up the law, so I see no difference.

JMHO
 
it would sure kill utah and floridas economy since if you had a ccw from your home state you wouldn't have to get their's
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I don't think we see it the same way. We are limiting/stopping the out of state permits now because it's costing too much to process them. That doesn't help the economy when we have to pay more than we take in.

I think a more feasible thing to do would be just to increase out of state permit cost's to cover the additional expenses. Though I'd hate to have to pay more for a piece of plastic in my wallet.
 
I certainly hope that Vitter is successful and that the congressmen that I sent to in my state, will actually read the email and give a rip.
I would certainly welcome out of state packers.
Criminals would then have to think twice before bothering people driving a vehicle with out of state plates.
 
Keep it up, folks.
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I refuse to vacation in States that don't accept one of my three permits...

It would be nice to be able to go on vacation anywhere in the U.S. legally armed...
 
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