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Berkeley study links Reagan, Hitler
Psychological research on conservatives finds them 'less complex'

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Posted: July 23, 2003
2:15 p.m. Eastern



© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

In a study that ponders the similarities between former President Ronald Reagan, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Rush Limbaugh, four American university researchers say they now have a better understanding of what makes political conservatives tick.



Underlying psychological motivations that mark conservatives are "fear and aggression, dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity; uncertainty avoidance; need for cognitive closure; and terror management," the researchers wrote in an article, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition," recently published in the American Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin.

"From our perspective, these psychological factors are capable of contributing to the adoption of conservative ideological contents, either independently or in combination," they wrote, according to a press release issued by the University of California at Berkeley.

The researchers also contend left-wing ideologues such as Joseph Stalin and Fidel Castro "might be considered politically conservative in the context of the systems that they defended."

The study was conducted by Associate Professor Jack Glaser and visiting Professor Frank Sulloway of UC Berkeley, Associate Professor John Jost of Stanford University's Graduate School of Business and Professor Arie Kruglanski of the University of Maryland at College Park.

Glaser allowed that while conservatives are less "integratively complex" than others, "it doesn't mean that they're simple-minded."

Conservatives don't feel the need to jump through complex, intellectual hoops in order to understand or justify some of their positions, he said, according to the Berkeley news release.

"They are more comfortable seeing and stating things in black and white in ways that would make liberals squirm," Glaser explained.

The assistant professor of public policy said President George W. Bush's comments during a 2001 trip to Italy provide an example.

The Republican president told assembled world leaders, "I know what I believe, and I believe what I believe is right."

Glaser also noted Bush told a British reporter last year, "Look, my job isn't to nuance."

'Elegant and unifying explanation'

The Berkeley news release said the psychologists sought patterns among 88 samples, involving 22,818 participants, taken from journal articles, books, conference papers, speeches, interviews, judicial opinions and survey studies.

Consistent, common threads were found in 10 "meta-analytic calculations" performed on the material, Glaser said.

Berkeley's Sulloway said the research is the first of its kind, synthesizing vast amount of information to produce an "elegant and unifying explanation" for political conservatism under the rubric of "motivated social cognition."

This area of psychological study, the news release explained, "entails the tendency of people's attitudinal preferences on policy matters to be explained by individual needs based on personality, social interests or existential needs."

Noting most all belief systems develop in part to satisfy psychological needs, the researchers said their conclusions do not "mean that conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational, or unprincipled."

Their finding also are not judgmental, they emphasized.

"In many cases, including mass politics, 'liberal' traits may be liabilities, and being intolerant of ambiguity, high on the need for closure, or low in cognitive complexity might be associated with such generally valued characteristics as personal commitment and unwavering loyalty," the researchers wrote.

However, the study showed, according to Glaser, liberals appear to have a higher tolerance for change than conservatives.

The conservatives' intolerance for ambiguity and need for closure can be seen, he said, in the current controversy over whether the Bush administration ignored intelligence information that discounted reports of Iraq's alleged purchase of nuclear material from Africa.

"For a variety of psychological reasons, then, right-wing populism may have more consistent appeal than left-wing populism, especially in times of potential crisis and instability," he said.

The researchers said the "terror management" tendency of conservatism is exemplified in post-Sept. 11 America, where many people appear to shun and even punish outsiders and those who threaten the status of cherished world views.

Likewise, they said, concerns with fear and threat can be linked to another key dimension of conservatism, an endorsement of inequality.

That view is reflected in the Indian caste system, South African apartheid and the conservative, segregationist politics of the late Sen. Strom Thurmond, the researchers wrote.

A current example of conservatives' tendency to accept inequality, he said, can be seen in their policy positions toward "disadvantaged minorities" such as gays and lesbians.

Stalin a conservative?

A broad range of conservatives share a resistance to change and acceptance of inequality, the researchers said, linking Reagan, Hitler, Mussolini and talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

These men were all right-wing conservatives, the study said, because they preached a return to an idealized past and condoned inequality in some form.

Glaser conceded the research could be viewed as partisan because it focused on political conservatism, but he argued there is a vast amount of information about conservatism and little about liberalism.

The researchers acknowledged left-wing ideologues such as Stalin, Castro and Nikita Kruschev resisted change in the name of egalitarianism after they established power.

But these men, the study said, might be considered politically conservative in the context of the systems that they defended.

Stalin, for example, was concerned about defending and preserving the existing Soviet system.
 
How can anyone call Hitler conservative?

Berkeley! What else don't you understand?;)
 
Up till now I thought I was made of sugar and spice and everything nice....

Berkley....:rolleyes:


Diesle
 
Underlying psychological motivations that mark conservatives are "fear and aggression, dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity; uncertainty avoidance; need for cognitive closure; and terror management," the researchers wrote in an article, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition," recently published in the American Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin.
Translation:
Lack fear and passivity is good.
Tolerance of confusion is good.
No solutions to life's problems is desired.
Run in circles, scream and shout is good.

The researchers also contend left-wing ideologues such as Joseph Stalin and Fidel Castro "might be considered politically conservative in the context of the systems that they defended."
Sort of covers all bets, doesn't it?

Nice to see that UC Berkeley hasn't lost its touch.

Pilgrim
 
Gee, who was in charge of this study...Al Franken? Michael Moore? What a bunch of bull$hit!! That's just sickening.

brad cook
 
The interesting thing will be when these psycho commies get "Conservative" entered into the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual- published by the American Psychiatric Association, the main diagnostic reference of Mental Health professionals in the United States of America) and then come up with some kind of way to cure it- or lock you away for it.:uhoh: :evil:
 
Studies at the Dain Bramage Institute show the difference between liberals and a banana is that the banana has appeal.

Yuk! Yuk!

Studies comparing liberals to gum stuck under a desk are continuing. Please send your financial support now. :neener:
 
Wha?

I attended college in Sonoma County in the late 60's: I drove to S.F. and Berkeley on weekends to see/hear the Rock Icons of the Era.

More than 30 years later, the Bay Area is still Chock Full 'O Nuts. Feinstein, are you trolling?:banghead: Is your trigger finger twitching because all the "conservatives" are recalling your buddy Grey Davis? :neener:....this lady "packs heat," yet is against private gun ownership. Something's wrong here... :barf:
 
2dogs has hit the nail right on the head. I just read an article this morning on Asperger Syndrome in the Seattle Times. The diagnosis includes those who have difficulty in social interactions, communication, and are preoccupied in a narrow field or interest, but often do well in math and engineering. Thus being a nerd is now a disease, subject to drugs and therapy.

Pretty soon, moral and sexual deviancy will be the only "normal" activity.
 
"The interesting thing will be when these psycho commies get "Conservative"
entered into the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual- published by the
American Psychiatric Association, the main diagnostic reference of Mental Health
professionals in the United States of America) and then come up with some kind
of way to cure it- or lock you away for it."

As the man said, "Analyze THIS!"

The irony is that this posse of sherrydrinkers, if ever given power,
would all be dictators to the nth degree. Right now they can only
lord it over impressionable grad students.

This kind of biased nonsense is a disgrace to scholarship. I continue
to think that madness prevails in certain enclaves of the academic
community. They will keep pushing until all hell breaks loose.
 
While the study is no doubt rather biased (simply by it's use of negative conservative personalities), there is some validity to what is said. A co-worker who is intensely liberal, discussed the same concepts with me in one of our occassional business lunches. We found that "black and white" vs "shades of gray" to be rather definitive of our method of decision making. Not mentioned in this study is the other conclusion we found- conservative thinkers tend to make more decisive leaders than liberal thinkers. They are morally satisfied with absolute decisions, and don't waffle too long on the possibilities.
 
However, the study showed, according to Glaser, liberals appear to have a higher tolerance for change than conservatives.
Hmmm ... isn't this kind of a "by definition" sort of observation?
Definition of "conservative": tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions
Definition of "liberal": not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

A "classical conservative" is anyone who works to preserve the current system.
A "classical liberal" is anyone who works to change the system.

Right? Or are they trying to tie the modern usage of conservative and liberal with all the issues that come along to this classical usage?
 
It's not just U.C. Berkeley. Some Red from U.M. College Park had his paws in this study, too. I did part of my Undergraduate tour of duty at Maryland. If there's a more leftist, commie infested craphole in the universe than U.M., I'd appreciate someone telling me where it is.

The place is brimming over with "Social Engineers" and loons. Of course I'm referring solely to the Social "Science" departments. The ACTUAL science departments (you know, the ones with the smart people who know how to do arithmetic and get real jobs) weren't like that. Come to think of it, they never are... :scrutiny:
 
My personal opinion...

One group thinks things through once and sticks with their conclusion.

The other group thinks things over and over and over until they forget what the question was and then complains that nobody understands them.

John
 
Underlying psychological motivations that mark conservatives are "fear and aggression, dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity; uncertainty avoidance; need for cognitive closure; and terror management,"

That actually perfectly describes the typical DemocraticUnderground poster.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, Range, but as a Science Prof, I can tell you that the science departments are also top-loaded with knee-jerk collectivists, gun grabbers, etc. Again, as a PROF, I tell my kids (one at Univ of MD at College Park, one going to Catholic U in the fall, and the other about to start senior yr in HS), to challenge their profs whenever they deviate from "fact" (being teenagers, and having a prof as a Dad, my kids are already biased against profs!). My oldest has already given her profs hell for their leftist bias (last time in a music class, no less!), and she considers herself a liberal! I hear lefist propaganda spread by other science profs ALL THE TIME. Nuff said.

Bolt
 
You all missed the point. Psychology is an art form. I bet I can artistically compare liberals with serial killers and ponder the similarities and get exactly the same type of conclusions as the crap in this study.
 
Rangerover:

It's not just U.C. Berkeley. Some Red from U.M. College Park had his paws in this study, too. I did part of my Undergraduate tour of duty at Maryland. If there's a more leftist, commie infested craphole in the universe than U.M., I'd appreciate someone telling me where it is.

UMBC?

College Park wasn't so bad when I was an undergrad there in '76-'80. We actually succeeded in running off one Marxist idiot: Bertell Ollman (NYU), who the Political Science Dept. wanted to hire as department chair.
 
Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over & over again, but expecting a different result...

USSR...
Cuba...
East Germany...
Great Britain...
Canada...
New York City...
Berkley...


I think the Berkley researchers (and liberals in general) already have their diagnoses listed in the DSM-IV...

297.10 Delusional Disorder
297.30 Shared Psychotic Disorder
300.02 Generalized Anxiety Disorder
300.29 Specific Phobia (Hoplophobia)
301.00 Paranoid Personality Disorder
301.60 Dependent Personality Disorder
304.80 Polysubstance Dependence
307.90 Communication Disorder NOS
309.24 Adjustment Disorder With Anxiety
312.30 Impulse-Control Disorder NOS
312.90 Disruptive Behavior Disorder NOS
313.81 Oppositional Defiant Disorder
313.82 Identity Problem
318.20 Profound Mental Retardation


Anything I missed?...:evil:
 
Once in power, everyone gets conservative. In my observation, almost any degree of increase in power leads to less openness to change and less desire to look at different sides of an issue. This is not necessarily a bad thing.

Just because Hitler had "socialist" in the name of his party doesn't make him a socialist any more than "Democrat" makes people in that party democratic or "Republican" means those folks give a rat's hiney about the republic.
 
Glaser allowed that while conservatives are less "integratively complex" than others, "it doesn't mean that they're simple-minded."

Conservatives don't feel the need to jump through complex, intellectual hoops in order to understand or justify some of their positions, he said, according to the Berkeley news release.

"They are more comfortable seeing and stating things in black and white in ways that would make liberals squirm," Glaser explained


I think the above part is correct, Conservatives dont feel the need to lie and make up abunch of crap to justify illogical positions and beliefs like liberals do.
 
I sent this story to a liberal friend of mine living in Eugene, OR.

Here's his take:

"well, it had to be said, so someone finally said it. republicans and
conservatives by policy and platform spread fear and separatism. these
principles embody the force of decay and de-evolution and hence are
destined to go the way of the dinosaur if life is to continue. life
grows toward unification and ever greater integration and complexity."

Be warned.:D
 
Does it bother anyone besides me that these strange, abstract, and wasteful studies are done at Public Universities, using public monies. This is as relevant as when NASA sends up a shuttle to experiment on the effects of zero gravit on plants.
 
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