Consider more than just the gun for home defense

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This is an excerpt from my January training newsletter but I thought it was also appropriate for S&T's here.

Just this afternoon, as has occurred countless times before, I found myself meandering through the local gun shop. The clerk was handing over a nice, shiny, 20” barreled, Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun to the plump gentleman standing on the other side of the counter. Flanking his sides were his wife and three young children, the oldest of whom couldn’t be over five years of age. As the father took a hold of this shotgun, the clerk stated, “This is the perfect home defense weapon. Just point it in the general direction and fire.” While there are so many things wrong with that statement I had to fight the urge to jump into the conversation. The family obviously hadn’t the first clue about firearms, and they were ignorant of the fact that the local gun shop isn’t always the best place for advice. While it is my job as an instructor to provide the best guidance that I can, it is simply unreasonable that I interact with every transaction where a clerk gives ill advice.

Let’s suppose that the family takes that 12 gauge shotgun home and then God forbid, a home invasion is imminent. Dad, who is busy at work, has dutifully left his wife well protected with a powerful weapon. How can we expect that mom is going to be able to retrieve a 12 gauge shotgun, navigate the house while corralling young children to a safe room, perhaps having to carry at least one of them, and then maintain control of the shotgun in a ready position while calling 911?

Despite the fact that a 12 gauge is a formidable weapon, is it even controllable for a basically trained mother of three? Is she going to be able to maintain control of such a weapon while going room to room looking for children? Is she going to be able to keep that weapon trained on the bedroom door while on the phone with 911?

In any event, circumstances beyond the size of the weapon, caliber, or gauge must be assessed before choosing a particular weapon over all others. This may mean a sacrifice in caliber, but if that means having the realistic ability to mount a defense, I would assert that it is worth it. In my home we keep a small arm readily accessible on each floor, with a long arm maintained in the safe room near the phone that will be used to call 911. While my wife, who is much smaller in stature and would be caring for young ones alone in my absence, would wisely not choose to transition to the long arm, it is there for the times in which I am home and can mount an even greater defense. There must be a balance between having “enough gun,” as I will continue to recommend, and having “too much gun.” Even more importantly, you must have a defined plan on how to put that firearm into action to best defend your loved ones.
 
A gun is the LAST line of home defense and is hopefully the last tool employed.

But... Only folks who know, study and understand self defense will understand that.

Getting the word out is good, and getting the word out to new THR members who may now know this is good.
 
Great Post - Thanks

Several years ago, my wife called me in a panic. Someone walked onto our property and got between her (with my baby girl) a our house. He was acting very starange and askinf if her husband was home. She told him that I was in the barn and to go down there. As he headed toward our barn, she and my little girl made it to the house. Once she got into the house, she called me at work. I instructed her on what to do. Part of those instructions included telling her to get my pistol. Long story, but everything turned out OK. The gun I had in our bedroom for protection was a Model 19K S&W .357. The gun was way to big and just shy of worthless to her. We also reliezed that we had never discussed the 'what if' situations. I'm sure glad we had the chance to learn on a false alarm.
 
Wait a minute. Is everyone's wives tiny little supermodel waifs that can't pick up a gallon of milk? My wife shoots a 357 and has no problem with a 45 or a 12 gauge. Sure you all mean that "We then took her to the range to make sure she knew what recoil to expect from this firearm."

A few weeks ago my wife was in the same rough situation, seeing someone wandering around our back yard when she got out of the shower, and promptly armed herself and gave me a call. It ends up it was a guy from the lawn service and all was well. I think the moral here is please make sure your spouses now the basics on how to protect themselves, and at least basic firearms operation.
 
Jscott, a shotgun is enough gun, if the children are too small for the mother to move them unassisted then maybe the plan would be for the kids room to be the safe room, Like others have said, it's a layer, someone comes in my front door, I hope to stop them before they get to the hall with my kids room, but I live in a very small house and it's basically a L shape, so the either come to my room or the kids.

like others have said, it's part of a plan
 
KOZZZ - " I think the moral here is please make sure your spouses [k]now the basics on how to protect themselves, and at least basic firearms operation."

You are 100% correct.

L.W.
 
My DSW has her Lifetime CCW Permit as do I. She has picked out her own handguns, shotgun & rifles.
When I'm not home,(I nearly always am, I'm retired.) she carries all the time. We live very rural. I carry all day every day. She practices regularly, same as I do. We have a couple of B/U Guns tucked away at various places in the house.
At night I have a Ruger .357 magnum in my nightstand and she has a 9mm in hers.
 
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Yea we can have all sort of thing from harden doors and windows. Security systems a good dog and some common sense training. I am a big fan of a 20gauge shotgun or my under 5 foot mothers baby a M-1 Carbine.
 
Wait a minute. Is everyone's wives tiny little supermodel waifs that can't pick up a gallon of milk?

+1

I noted his overly sexist/elitist tone as well with the same disgust you have. This thread definitely takes the low road.
 
well, here is my perspective

One side is a realistic view of maneuvering infants/toddlers while wheeling a long arm

The other is kinda a "this is best for the 'veemen folks'" attitude.

I take the opinion that it is best to defend in place, better for the kids to bunker down than run loose in a chaotic situation, so if the wife is mounting a static defense, best for it to be in a way that protects/blocks access to the children.

For me that means if you are in a area of my house that would put round through my kids room, it's a no shoot, until I get low and the BG gets God.

BTW good read about this
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=564531
 
The OP says: There must be a balance between having “enough gun,” as I will continue to recommend, and having “too much gun.”

Somehow that gets morphed into Wait a minute. Is everyone's wives tiny little supermodel waifs that can't pick up a gallon of milk?.

Then that gets extended all the way to I noted his overly sexist/elitist tone as well with the same disgust you have. This thread definitely takes the low road.

Now let's think about this for a minute. Not everyone who needs to have the capacity to defend themselves is a twenty-something, completely healthy person at the peak of their physical abilities. Anyone who lives long enough and is not a social isolate is going to know people who have physical limitations to one degree or another. If they aren't lucky, they might even turn out to be one of those people. Or be married to one, the child or grandchild of one... you get my point by now, I hope.

There is NOTHING sexist or disparaging about consciously matching the caliber, size, weight and mechanics of the chosen defensive firearm to the physical needs of the shooter who will be using it. In fact it is a much more realistic and practical approach than any other I'm aware of.

So, as always, let us please be mindful of the full range of human physical abilities- before we go falling off of horses that are too high...

lpl
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again...

For realistic home defense, nothing beats the handgun you carry on your side every where, every day, all day.

The shotgun and rifle, while certainly more powerful and effective than a handgun, is most likely not going to be the gun you have at hand when you really need one.
 
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If one can afford it and has no aversion to dogs, a handgun, shotgun, alarm system and a well trained German Sheppard would be optimal.
 
Wait a minute. Is everyone's wives tiny little supermodel waifs that can't pick up a gallon of milk? My wife shoots a 357 and has no problem with a 45 or a 12 gauge. Sure you all mean that "We then took her to the range to make sure she knew what recoil to expect from this firearm."

My GF can do more pull ups than you can, but she has slim hands.

The sp101 gives her a chance of a good, comfortable grip.

She can go with the 1911, and hit anything she wants, for about 20 rounds.

But as much as she's been dryfiring the sp101, she will probably do much better.
 
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