Considering a 10mm,thoughts?

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Been pondering picking up a 10mm in the future. Been digging around trying to see what's out there. I was thinking about picking up a 1911 in .45 originally, but I think I'd like a 10mm instead.

The gun would be mainly a woods carry /hunting,and a little target shooting (yea I know ammo isn't cheap). But it would be a box here and there kind of shooting. I don't reload.

As for platforms I really like cz pistols so ive been looking at tanfoglio witness. I like the steel one but the lighter poly frame would be nice. However will the poly frame hold up to hot 10mm loads? Lighter pistol would recoil more,but would sure feel nicer carrying all day. Also i can only have 10 round mags so would have to see if any we're available for the witness. Others I'm considering are a Ruger sr1911 10mm. Maybe Glock 41, but I don't shoot flocks that great . And lastly a sig, but they are expensive,and kinda out of my price range.

I have a .357,so don't need another hunting pistol,but I don't need to justify another purchase. Simply put, I just want one. It'll be a few months before I can buy one. Just figured I'd get some input. Open to other brand suggestions as well.Thanks.
 
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If you want one, get one. I have owned 4 or 5 1911 and Glock 10mm autos over the years, and used to reload for 10mm also. The only 10mm I still own is a Glock 29. After 20 years, I have decided the 10mm is a bit of a novelty round, fun to shoot and reload, but doesn't do anything I can't do with other guns I own.
 
I have a fair amount of experience with the steel-framed Tanfo's (from their Elite line) in 10mm, but none with the polymer frame. I think the big steel frames are a really, really good platform for the 10mm - more weight (and probably more mechanical accuracy, and definitely better trigger potential) than a Glock for recoil assistance, and a wider backstrap than a 1911 for spreading that recoil more comfortably.

I carry an Elite Match for woods carry pretty comfortably, but I don't have a bad back and I'm not unpadded! The weight doesn't bother me, but others might feel differently.
 
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NY - 10 round mag limit. (arbitrary, sucks, ineffective)
I've got a Glock 20SF, 29SF (10 rounds), and a Delta Elite 10mm (8 or 9 round mags).
No mag limit here, I'm carrying the Delta cause its more comfortable strong side IWB than the 20/29
I was carrying a 1911 in 45 acp, but the Delta offers more KE and a extra round capacity.
If I lived under a 10 round mag limit the 20SF would be sold, cause principle.
No way I'd carry a pistol designed to hold 15 rounds with an artificially limited 10 round mag, sickening.
I reload, so I can craft 10mm ammo to suit me.
If not reloading, Underwood & DoubleTap offer hot loaded 10mm, Sig also offers "full power" loads.
Hornady is not nuclear, moderate, but is a step above the stuff loaded to 40 S&W power.
Ruger SR 1911 10mm is my next acquisition when funds have accrued. (designed to hold 10 or less rounds ;) )
 
Only a 10rd limit? Maybe consider going for a pistol that can handle '45 super' which is the same cartridge size as 45 acp but uses thicker brass, etc to handle much higher pressures.
Can an HK45 handle 45super?

http://pistolsmith.com/heckler-koch-pistols/4760-hk-pistol-if-any-will-handle-45-p-45-super.html

I guess the hk usp45 is in the same boat, although that one is normal capacity 12rds.

At the moment on ammoseek it looks like normal 45acp can be found for 22c/rd, 10mm is almost 30c/rd.
 
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I've had a G20 for years, bought a G29 a few years back to have something easier to carry for a woods gun. I rarely use the G20 anymore. Both are equally accurate and I can use 15 round mags in the smaller G29. I like 1911's but only in 45. The reliability and durability of 1911's in 10mm have always been suspect, although they seem to be doing better. The Glocks and S&W 1006 series are the only 2 brands that have proven they can hold up to 10mm power. It is too early to say about Sig, but EAA's have a poor reputation when chambered in 10mm.

. If I'm actually carrying mine it usually is loaded with 200 gr DoubleTap ammo for use when hiking/camping in bear country. Unless you plan on large predator protection or hunting you don't need a 10mm. Go back to your original plan and buy a 1911 in 45. For human threats a 9mm, 40, or 45 loaded with good ammo is more than sufficient.

But the 10mm is extremely versatile. As said I can carry it with heavier loads that compare closely to 44 mag when they are fired from 4" or shorter barrels. Or I can drop that magazine and insert one with lighter loads more suitable for personal defense. My G29 is a pound lighter 2" shorter than my 4" revolvers in 357 and 44 magnum. The longer sight radius and better triggers mean the revolvers are more accurate at distance and a better choice for hunting. But the lighter more compact G20 with more ammo is better suited for protection from either 2 or 4 legged predators.

For what I do the G29 is the best 10mm option for me. I wouldn't call 10mm a novelty round, I think niche is a better description. I actually shoot my 10mm pistols the least. But they fill a very important role for me and would be one of the last I'd sell. One other advantage is the ability to shoot cheaper, and more readily available 40 ammo though a 10mm. Replacement barrels for Glock are readily available and moderately priced allowing 40 to be fired in them. In fact you CAN fire 40 S&W through a 10mm Glock barrel. They feed and fire just fine. Not something I recommend doing a lot, but I've done it and it works just fine. Adds even more versatility. I can't say how well that works with other brands of 10mm, but it is fairly common with Glock shooters.
 
jmr40 said:
EAA's have a poor reputation when chambered in 10mm.
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That "reputation" is now years and years out of date and has to do with a particular slide design and treatment that is no longer even sold. That particular combination also had problems with 45 ACP.
 
I've had several 10MM pistols and revolvers since the 10MM became available. Those would include a Bren Ten, Colt, Kimber, Glock, several S&W semi-autos, and S&W and Ruger 10MM revolvers. The totally reliable "bullet proof" semi-autos have been the, now out of production, S&Ws. Nothing cracks, breaks or crumbles, and they just work reliably without any requirement for heavy recoil springs, dual springs, buffers, HD mainsprings, etc. if one chooses to use the "real" 10MM ammo. Since introduction of the 10MM, most of the 10MM ammo I've used has been factory, or the handloaded equivalent, of the old Norma, and more recently CorBon, Buffalo Bore,etc. Of course if one intends to use the .40 S&W equivalent 10MM loads, I would imagine that any decent quality 10MM pistol would be up to the task.....ymmv

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The 10mm is a powerhouse, but have you ever thought of just simplifying things and going with a .357 Magnum? I thought the 10mm was a great idea when it came out, but the whole idea was to create a .357 in an autopistol. The .40 S&W didn't cut it, so the 10mm was developed. But it's expensive and it has to have stiff springs to work. Actually, with the newer ammo, the 9mm has been enjoying a resurgence. It's got more power than a .38+P but not quite up to the .357. But you'll never stuff 15 shots into a revolver. I've never felt the need to go with 9mm +P+, but many of my steel-framed guns would handle it. I'm not a big fan of the 1911 design, but if they can be made 99% reliable or better, then I could live with it. I'm just not a fan of the grip safety. I'd love a gun like the Browning Hi-Power with a smooth action. I love those guns.
 
I have a G29 w/Storm Lake barrel. Great to carry along when hunting & for EDC. Got 4K rounds of 180gr cast thur it. Load is 13.5 #9/180gr cast. Love it.:D
 
Stargater53 said:
The 10mm is a powerhouse, but have you ever thought of just simplifying things and going with a .357 Magnum? I thought the 10mm was a great idea when it came out, but the whole idea was to create a .357 in an autopistol. The .40 S&W didn't cut it, so the 10mm was developed. But it's expensive and it has to have stiff springs to work. Actually, with the newer ammo, the 9mm has been enjoying a resurgence. It's got more power than a .38+P but not quite up to the .357. But you'll never stuff 15 shots into a revolver. I've never felt the need to go with 9mm +P+, but many of my steel-framed guns would handle it. I'm not a big fan of the 1911 design, but if they can be made 99% reliable or better, then I could live with it. I'm just not a fan of the grip safety. I'd love a gun like the Browning Hi-Power with a smooth action. I love those guns.
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I have a 6" .357 gp100 , a 2.25" sp101 in .357,and a CZ p01 in 9mm. Like I said the 10mm is just because I want one and would give me an alternate woods carry gun,in a auto pistol . The 1911 in 45 is a decent option. My main concern is ethical shots on white tail out to say 35 yards. So rather have a bit more snap if need be. I will own a 1911 in .45 one day,just inquiring about peoples suggestions on 10mms.
 
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My main concern is ethical shots on white tail out to say 35 yards.
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Then 10mm is a great choice. Underwood ammo makes some really nice loads in 10mm. They have a 150gr load in solid copper that would be great for putting down deer.
 
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Far from being a novelty round, the 10mm Auto is probably the most versatile and useful auto pistol cartridge in existence. It gets the energy of a stiff .357 Magnum with a larger diameter heavier bullet and at about 50% more capacity than your typical revolver, even in the single stack models like the SIG and 1911. Ramp it up to a double stack magazine like the EAA or the Glock, where you are packing 14 or 15 rounds in the magazine, and you have a handgun with unmatched firepower and capabilities. My Glock 20 is my only handgun for time being, but it does everything I need from a handgun. It accompanies me in the woods as protection from black bears and cougars, I've taken deer with it, and I carry it strong-side OWB as my EDC.

The experts said the 10mm was dead 25 years ago. It has maintained a cult following despite it's lack of mainstream commercial support simply because it works. It has, in fact, been experiencing a resurgence in popularity, and you have more options now than you ever have for that cartridge. It is a high performance cartridge with a lot to offer. If you don't like Glocks, fine, but you owe it to yourself to jump on the bandwagon.
 
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MTMilitiaman said:
Far from being a novelty round, the 10mm Auto is probably the most versatile and useful auto pistol cartridge in existence. It gets the energy of a stiff .357 Magnum with a larger diameter heavier bullet and at about 50% more capacity than your typical revolver, even in the single stack models like the SIG and 1911. Ramp it up to a double stack magazine like the EAA or the Glock, where you are packing 14 or 15 rounds in the magazine, and you have a handgun with unmatched firepower and capabilities. My Glock 20 is my only handgun for time being, but it does everything I need from a handgun. It accompanies me in the woods as protection from black bears and cougars, I've taken deer with it, and I carry it strong-side OWB as my EDC.

The experts said the 10mm was dead 25 years ago. It has maintained a cult following despite it's lack of mainstream commercial support simply because it works. It has, in fact, being experiencing a resurgence in popularity, and you have more options now than you ever have for that cartridge. It is a high performance cartridge with a lot to offer. If you don't like Glocks, fine, but you owe it to yourself to jump on the bandwagon.
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I like Glocks, my first handgun was a Glock 17. Which was not that long ago. I just couldn't shoot it fo the life of me. 3-4" groups at 7-10 yards. Not the guns fault. But maybe I need to reconsider,idk. I can shoot my p01 at least twice as accurate,and I can group even better yet with my GP. At 25 yards I can get about 4-6" groups standing no support with the GP. I'm new to pistols this past year so long way to go. Sure I should spend more on ammo and shoot more. But that's not going to deter me from increasing my collection. I have a problem and this forum is full of enablers......I love it!:evil:
 
I shot a 10mm delta elite once, and it wasn't pleasant at all- and I was pretty well trained in the military on the 1911 45. I did own a delta elite from 1988- unfired when I got it and still unfired when I sold it a few months ago. The only thing I would want one for would be 4 legged beasts. I'm not a revolver guy. The guns that I carry for that purpose are a Glock 23 (40) in hog country or a Glock 21 SF (45) in bear country. FWIW, the bear hunting guides I hunted with in Maine all carried 45 autos of some type.
 
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I shot a 10mm delta elite once, and it wasn't pleasant at all- and I was pretty well trained in the military on the 1911 45. I did own a delta elite from 1988- unfired when I got it and still unfired when I sold it a few months ago. The only thing I would want one for would be 4 legged beasts. I'm not a revolver guy. The guns that I carry for that purpose are a Glock 23 (40) in hog country or a Glock 21 SF (45) in bear country. FWIW, the bear hunting guides I hunted with in Maine all carried 45 autos of some type.
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Thanks for that on .45s. I've been looking into 1911's for a bit. And opinions on .45s being adequate to hunt deer are all over,hence looking into a 10mm. I always hunt deer with a rifle. I really pride myself on taking ethical on game. Both archery and firearms. I would love to use a .45, and maybe some others will tune in on their thought of a .45 and deer. But if it's questionable,I think I'd rather step it up in power. I like shooting my brother 44 mag and father .41. so recoil isnt a super concern. Can't imaging a full size 10 mm with "hot" factory loads would bark worse Than My 2.25" sp101 shooting .357s
 
I can't speak for the 10mm Auto in a 1911. I never got the allure of the 1911 in .45 to be honest. Not the pleasant experience for me that it is for others. More like "meh." The Glock has a nice shock absorbing polymer frame, and that thick grip deposits recoil energy over more surface area. The grip angle and the low bore axis also help. I've seen a 15 year old girl keep a bottle rolling with full power Double Tap and my Gen III Glock 20.

You certainly know you've touched off more than your average lumbering .45 ACP, but I wouldn't call the 10mm painful or unpleasant--and everything the .45 can do the 10mm can do better.

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FL-NC said:
I shot a 10mm delta elite once, and it wasn't pleasant at all- and I was pretty well trained in the military on the 1911 45. I did own a delta elite from 1988- unfired when I got it and still unfired when I sold it a few months ago. The only thing I would want one for would be 4 legged beasts. I'm not a revolver guy. The guns that I carry for that purpose are a Glock 23 (40) in hog country or a Glock 21 SF (45) in bear country. FWIW, the bear hunting guides I hunted with in Maine all carried 45 autos of some type.
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I had a early 1990's Delta Elite too, the narrow tang grip safety was punishing to my hand, did not like.

However, my new production Delta with beavertail grip safety is no problem to shoot 100 rounds in a session, big difference.
 
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