Convince me to buy an H&K P7-M8

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Howabout it's the only H&K in any form that measures up to the inflated reputation of the entire company?

If H&K hates us, and we suck, well so too does the rest of their line from the beginning save for the genius that is the P7M8 and P7M13.

Well said.
 
Call the people at Milt Sparks holsters and ask them about holsters for the P7. They will tell you the P7 is more difficult than most guns to get a holster that works well. I have had that conversation with them. But what could they know?
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Yes, Call Milt Sparks. Their Versa Max II is one of the most popular IWB holsters for the P7 series. They sell many of them for the P7 and are ideal for the job. If it was so difficult to accomodate, they wouldn't do it. :rolleyes:
 
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P7 k3

I personally like the K3 in .380 acp best. It is a little smaller than the M8. In recent years the price on this particular model has skyrocketed. Good for me:D
 
The Versa Max II is designed with the P7 in mind. It was designed to carry the P7 for exactly the reasons I mentioned. If the P7 did not have this problem, the VMII would not exist.


I dont have an axe to grind. The P7 is an excellent weapon. It just isn't as easy to find a good holster that allows you to carry it concealed well because of its ergonomics. It was designed to be carried open. Can you find a decent holster for it? Yes, but its not as easy as finding a good holster for other guns.
 
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I've sold 3 of the P7s....love them...but sometime you need a different gun. I am keeping this P7M8.
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Good holsters are available for the gun. We make them, others make them. Try and find a holster for any rare gun and see what you find. Every Gun has its holsters. So does this one. Its not being in a cult, just being accurate.

plus, if the WORST thing you can say about the gun is lack of holsters.....
 
No, that purple color is just their special "plum" bluing. Probably original. And yeah, you're gonna want that gun...3 mags...wow! While a bit odd, the plum bluing is sort of a trademark and makes one of the best-built, best designed (if not most popular), all-steel guns ever made even more distinctive.

I really want one but haven't seen one since they were selling them NIB 20 years ago for $1,200 when you could get a NIB S&W 59 for $350.
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Hmm, I guess the ones I've owned over the years must be fakes. Being that you've never owned one and have only seen one in 20-years and I only have 3 right now (P7/PSP, P7M8, P7M13), but what do I know. And I thought that the plum color is a tell-tale result when re-bluing a very hardened steel like what is used on P7-family of guns.
 
The P7 just isn't that odd. It sits very securely in my holster. Whatever bad holster experience you had, it really isn't pertinent to today's available choices.
 
I've owned several of them and I finally gave up on them because I kept hitting the mag release when I "locked" my thumb down. Just the way I grip a pistol I guess.

They also get pretty hot when range shooting.

Price is good for what is offered. All of mine had purple slides and they were all NIB. Most of the used ones are not reblued they just are purple from the start.
 
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Is that really "black" chrome? It doesn't look very black to me..looks more like a regular polished chrome finish. So what's the difference between black chrome and regular chrome?
 
No gun is perfect. The P7 has its pros and cons just like the others. People are passionate about it because it has vastly more pros than cons, it works and is a proven pistol that is different in some very good ways.
 
Ha. OK here are the P7 cons:

It gets hot after 50 rounds or so of continous firing.
Only has a 8 + 1 capacity.
Heavy
Mags are expensive, $50 ea., or more.
Can't shoot lead through it.
Expensive, except for the current crop of PSP's.
Specialized manual of arms.


Any others? Put down the Koolaid and step away from the gas tube scraper. :)
 
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Personally, I would buy two PSP's vs. one P7M8.
A friend was looking at the P7's, and after he shot my PSP, he decided to buy the PSP.
The heat shield may give you an extra 5-10 rounds before it gets just as hot.
The thumb release on the P7 in no quicker than the base release on the PSP because you need to use your other hand to remove the magazine on either as they do not drop free (on the P7 I had anyways).
Both hold the same capacity rounds.
I think the bigger trigger opening on the P7 is ugly.
Both are very accurate.
I love my PSP's - either are great, for the money you can't beat a PSP!
 
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Just stumbled on this thread, and the posts by "Lone Gunman" really caught my attention..

I don't care if someone likes the HK P7 or not (I do), but give us a break.:barf:

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I sometimes wonder if other guns heated up like that if we would be giving them such rave reviews???
 
The thumb release on the P7 in no quicker than the base release on the PSP because you need to use your other hand to remove the magazine on either as they do not drop free (on the P7 I had anyways).
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All 3 of the p7M8s I've owned (I'm down to 1 now, but I have over 20 PSPs) have rocketed magazines out of the mag well. The old joke was that when you ran out of ammo you could aim the magazine at the bad guy and hit the mag release.

If I carried a spare magazine, I'd probably prefer the P7M8, but since I don't I choose to carry a PSP. I've actually gotten pretty good at getting a new mag into the PSP, but I still don't think it's as fast as the M8.
I sometimes wonder if other guns heated up like that if we would be giving them such rave reviews?
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I think it depends on what the intended use of the gun is. The P7 is not the gun I would choose to do 300 rounds non stop rapid fire, and it isn't a gun I would enter in a 1,500 round "no cleaning endurance test" either. Since neither of these applies to concealed carry they don't really bother me at all, since that is my main purpose for owning the gun.

Ha. OK here are the P7 cons:

It gets hot after 50 rounds or so of continous firing.
Only has a 8 + 1 capacity.
Heavy
Mags are expensive, $50 ea., or more.
Can't shoot lead through it.
Expensive, except for the current crops of PSP's.
Specialized manual of arms.

Any others?
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*They need to be cleaned more often than many other guns.
*While field stripping is a breeze, P7s, unlike some guns (Glocks and 1911s come to mind) are difficult to completely take apart and put back together. I'm not sure you'd ever need to, but it could be seen as a drawback.
 
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A shop near me has 2 of them in stock. They are priced at $1100 and are in excellent shape. I've thought about buying one a few times. They really are a neat pistol and I like them well enough.....to me they just aren't an $1100 gun. Something about them keeps me interested though. They certainly are unique. If you are enamored with them....then it's probably worth it to you. If you have to ask us, it's probably not. There's a lot of competition out there when you've got $1000 burning a hole in your pocket.
 
Don't listen to the few naysayers - obviously they don't appreciate fine engineering and quality craftsmanship.

It gets hot after 50 rounds or so of continous firing.
Only has a 8 + 1 capacity.
Heavy
Mags are expensive, $50 ea., or more.
Can't shoot lead through it.
Expensive, except for the current crops of PSP's.
Specialized manual of arms.
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Show me ANY handgun that doesn't get hot after 50 rounds of continuous fire. Of course a normal person has no need to do that in the first place.
8+1 is more than a typical 1911 or any other typical SINGLE STACK pistol
Heavy - absorbs recoil well...NOT for pocket carry - in a holster does just fine
M8 mags were about $33 at Midway last time I looked - my PSP mages are expensive, but I have 4 of them
Can't shoot lead - polygonal barrel - you SHOULDN'T, but then ask all the Glock folks who do; personally, I do not, but I DO shoot plated
expensive? compared to??? maybe a keltec, but right in line with Kimbers, SA's, Sigs, etc.
Manual of arms? squeeze grip, pull trigger - how hard is that?

This is one a few guns that you can buy right now and immediately sell it after a few months for more than you paid.....(Seecamp 380 and Rohrbaugh also come to mind)
 
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