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Cops took my gun today.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by helpless, Aug 2, 2007.

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  1. helpless

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    I was in car accident as a passenger in a friends car today. Someone ran a stop sign and basically put us into a slow speed pit maneuver spinning us 180 degrees and in to a curb. I felt fine at first but after walking around started to feel dizzy and sharp pains from my left ear down past my ribs. I sat down and was unable to get up on my own.

    That said. The ambulance came, Asked if I needs to go to the hospital, I told them that I wasnt sure I thought I was fine just a little pain and told them that they where the experts. Needless to say after they saw me try to stand up, we both agreed that I should be checked out and I was told if I went they would need to strap me down, the whole stretcher treatment. My first thought went to my sidearm. I told the paramedic that I was concealed carry permit holder and that my sidearm was on my right hip. He was cool enough not to make a big scene and waited with me until the deputy arrived and pulled him aside out of earshot of others and explained. The deputy told me, hang tight and he would see me in the ambulance.

    After I was all strapped down the deputy entered and took my info, asked details on the firearm and then asked me the best way to remove it, seeing how I was pretty tied up. He unbuckled my belt, pulled the entire rig including holster off the belt as I told him it was chambered he said, no problem.

    He gave me a receipt and slipped his card in my shirt pocket and told me to call in him in the morning so he could meet me at evidence to reclaim it. He told me, that with him being there, it should be a non issue.

    I am lucky because he recognized my last name as my father is a capt in the next county over and I had actually met this guy once in a unrelated incident.

    The other officer who was with him mentioned The XD .45 was a nice piece and commented on how they would have never thought I would of had that under my shirt.

    We will see in the morning how much trouble it is to retrieve my sidearm. Auto accidents resulting in an ambulance ride was a total curve ball I never thought about when carrying concealed. I have been in accident that were pretty serious rendering my unconscious. So I always figured that my concealed handgun would be the least of my worries during an accident. I never counted on that middle ground where you have to inform the paramedics and all that follows. I tried to handle it the best I could but I have to admit I was a little out of it. I could have given it to my buddy but I didnt want to make him responsible for it.
     
  2. Greell

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    Sounds like you handled it pretty well then!

    side note, hope you're alright mate
     
  3. bogie

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    I had a friend in pre MO CCW days who had a .38 derringer in his pocket when he got hit by a truck on his motorcycle.

    Hospital returned it to him when he checked out.
     
  4. helpless

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    I guess I am fine, All bones where they are supposed to be. Some pain, Hoping it is just the normal soreness to be expected. When I was much younger I would have muscled through and walked away from such a bang up but as I get older, I want to be on the safe side.
     
  5. PPGMD

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    Unless there is something prohibiting concealed carry into a hospital in your state I would have simply left it be. It would have been found and secured at the hospital, much easier then having to worry about pulling it out of a evidence locker.
     
  6. kd7nqb

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    I think you did the perfect thing. Personal belongings tend to wander off or at least careless get tossed in plastic bags. Frankly I think it perfect that the LEO was so cool about the whole thing.
     
  7. helpless

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    I thought about this, but I was getting ready to be strapped down to a stretcher and would just assume bring it up before that whole ordeal. I figured that they would okay no big deal since I had a permit to carry but the medic called the LEO because he told me they would have had a cow at the hospital if they would have found it then. And frankly I wasnt really in the mood to try to combat anti reactions. We will see in the morning if I made the right decision. I agree I wasnt happy about it but I was at the mercy of circumstance.
     
  8. General Geoff

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    Did pretty good considering the circumstance. I'm not entirely sure what I'd do given that situation. Probably the same thing, though if a portion of my body just went numb, one of the last things on my mind would be who to surrender my sidearm to..
     
  9. Prince Yamato

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    You did the right thing. If they had to suddenly operate on you in the hospital, they may have had to remove the gun from your care and it could have gotten lost or stolen. Heck, an EMT could have stole it from you while you were strapped down on the stretcher.
     
  10. CNate

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    Glad to hear your ok. I'd say you did right, worst case scenario they could have stuck you in an MRI with your CCW on you...we all know what happens then apparently :rolleyes:
     
  11. critter

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    My local gun dealer (and ccw instructor) is also a paramedic. Here, they have a 'safe box' on the ambulance in which to store ccw firearms. Good solution IMHO.
     
  12. spartan55

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    I hope it turns out alright, personnally I'd hate for anyone to touch my gun let alone take it from me. However in this case the leo securing it and giving you a reciept is a whole lot better than you passing out in route or at the hospital and a medic, nurse thinking they need the pistol more than you.
     
  13. Vonderek

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    The title of the thread made me think it was going to be about a LEO trampling someone's rights. I'd say everyone involved handled the situation calmly and professionally. I think you did the right thing. No telling where the gun would have ended up had you kept it with you to the hospital. On a sidenote, when my brother was killed in an accident, somewhere between the ambulance to the hospital to the funeral home his watch and gold ring "disappeared".
     
  14. The Amigo

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    Walking with a loaded gun around certain areas of a hospital is not a good idea, There has been cases of accidental discharges when people with loaded guns especially the .45 cocked and locked one in the chamber type that have become magnetized and the hammer has dropped on them. This has happened a lot especially with LEO,s walking around sonogram and MRI machines that have very big magnets. There has been evidence of guns being magnetized even for days latter after it has been exposed to magnetic resonance, Owners have found this by guns attracting paper clips ext..

    I know this because it was brought to my department as a safety memo, Me being the I dont believe it type started searching and found some interesting articles about this problem.

    I think you did fine.
     
  15. cambeul41

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    Amigo

    XDs are not carried "cocked and locked." They are carried cocked, but there is no external, thumb operated safety. They are carried in what a 1911 person could call "condition 0." The grip and trigger safeties are all that is needed.
     
  16. unspellable

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    Important point

    One important point here. One can take a whack to the head and appear to be fine after wards, only later (Within an hour or so.) to develop VERY serious problems. This happened a dog we once had. he took a whack to the noggin, seemed to be all right for a while and then became distressed. Took him to the hospital and he died within an hour. This efect is due to swelling in the brain.

    The moral of the story is NEVER take a head injury casually, even if it seems slight.
     
  17. PennsyPlinker

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    1. Hospital workers will steal everything and anything that is not nailed down, and some things that are. While most of our visits have been few, even when we have gone for outpatient stuff, we are told to send anything of any of value home!

    2. I would rather have a cop who is supposed to know how to handle something like this handle it rather than someone who knows nothing and panics, shooting me, himself (or herself), or someone else, or just freaks out and starts screaming.
     
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    Sounds to me like you encountered a concientious deputy who will make sure that your weapon is properly secured and cared for until such time as you can retrieve it. Glad to hear that you weren't banged up any worse than you were.
     
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    Had a guy traveling through my neck of Arkansas that had a wreck in a mobile home. The ambulance just brought in his 2 rifles and three handguns and we put them in the medicine closet till he was ready to go. No big deal.
     
  20. tydephan

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    You did good man.

    You kept your reasoning about you during a stressful time. You used common sense.

    Perfect summation of my thoughts.

    I wouldn't sweat about getting your gun back. You know the LEO. He gave you a receipt. There was a witness (the paramedic). You should be in good shape.

    Good job all around handling this situation.

    Get well! You got more decals to make! LOL!
     
  21. RoadkingLarry

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    Sounds like appropriate actions were taken by all. Similar incident with a biker buddy of mine, he crashed and was going to have to be transported(helo, bad crash) but he informed the Trooper that he had a CCW and permit. his weapon was taken by local sheriff dept for safe keeping and promptly returned to him when he was able to go back and get it. Should be no worries on your part.
     
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    Ah, yes, but that's Arkansas. :cool:

    As for hospitals, here they are anti-CCW. I agree that it was better to hand it off to an LEO, who would give a receipt, than wait and let someone at a hospital find it.
     
  23. MinnMooney

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    I certainly think that you did the correct thing by telling the EMT and then securing your weapon with the police officer. What if you had passed out sometime during the ambulance ride or in the hospital? What if you'd woke up to realize that your gun was missing? A very scary realization that would be. At those times when you may not be in complete control of yourself (drinking, accident w/possible head injury or even just getting gas at the dental office) it's best to secure your weapon where you'll know that it will be when you wake up.
    Please keep us informed about the outcome when you show up at the evidence room.
     
  24. Bacchus

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    Sounds like you kept your cool, even in the midst of an injury and difficult situation. Good luck on your recovery.
     
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    glad you made it out relatively okay.


    and hope you get your gun back soon.
     
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