Cornering w/longarm on weakhand corner...

[krept]

Ok, had a question a while ago about defending/attacking from a weakhand corner with a handgun. The answers revolved around some switching the weapon to their weakhand to maximize cover, while others would lean a little and keep handgun in strong hand. I recently saw a demonstration on how to do the latter while in isosceles and it works very well.

At the same time, however, this same strategy isn't possible, to my knowledge with a longarm. The way I see it, if you keep the weapon on your strongside, you will have to lean unreasonably out to clear the corner and engage. The other option, switching to weakhand might put you at a disadvantage, say, if you aren't VERY used to manipulating your longarm in the opposite hold. Things might get very jumpy or accuracy might really suffer if you go with weakhand.

I've never had a tactical rifle/shotgun class so I have no idea if my observations are correct. Seeing how 50% time one might be presented with this scenario both indoors and outdoors with a longarm, I am interested in how this situatuion is approached.

Again the isosceles works great here because a minimum amount of exposure is encountered due to the symmetry of the stance (just bend at the torso either way). But I don't think there is a similar stance for a longarm, is there?

Thanks for the responses.

cheers,
Erik

 

[krept]

Good stuff. I'd probably try to get to cover where I could maximize the strong hand even if that means retreating to a new position. If that weren't possible, I guess you would be cornered and then would have to use violence of action to take real estate?

Ideally you would get to practice these situations frequently. I'd stick to stronghand with both a longarm and pistol.

thanks for the input.

cheers

 

[sanchezero]

While there isn't really a long arm iso stance, by squaring up your stance and moving the butt of the rifle toward the center of your chest you can get alot closer. It helps a bit on the corners, plus it's more mobile, as any 'squarish' stance will be.

I definitely recommend a carbine/urban rifle type class. They're alotta fun and if you're only an occaisional rifle shooter, you'll really get alot out of it.

 

[Denny Hansen]

I'm in agreement with Erick here. Although make an effort to practice weak-hand only almost every time I train, I view it more as a contingency for if my strong arm is completely disabled.

Denny

 

[El Tejon]

krept, stay strong, learn to cant and other ways to "cheat."

I believe I've only switched shoulder once with a long gun and that was when, I thought, there was no other way (got scolded for not transitioning to pistola).

 

[Arcli9ht]

Ambidextrous here... nyah

Switch to lefty and continue. I have to do this in paintball all the time. Work on the transfer, speed needs to be up to make it very effective.

/Arcli9ht

 

[Fed168]

Gotta second moving the stock to your chest. Drop your arms down, keep your body tight and roll out of the cover and back as necessary.

Since we are probably talking about social distances, using the support side will do fine- as long as it is practiced. Another suggestion for slings is to have it so the gun rides about midbody. Something also to do is create distance from cover. One should be about two feet or so off of the cover, and this also lets you slice the pie easier.

 

[Rosco Benson]

I can't imagine switching to my "stupid" hand or shoulder for any reason other than an injury rendered my strong hand/shoulder unavailable. Weak hand/shoulder training is important, but as casualty drills, not to facilitate switching sides for spurious advantages in addressing wrong-way corners.

Rosco