Cornyn offers ‘reciprocity’ for 17 million concealed carry permit holders

[ar-newbie]

When you hear the phrase "common sense" in a discussion about guns, it's time to be fully alert. One of the most misused phrases ever. nearly as bad as "assault rifle"

 

[boom boom]

An easier way to get some of what we want is for Congress to authorize concealed carry states to form a compact. It is like a treaty among states and is far more difficult for a subsequent state to get out of than the current state by state legislation and is not amenable to federal executive interference once it is set up.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Interstate_compact

 

[Spats McGee]

. . . .How anyone expects states like NY, CT, MA, CA to agree to reciprocity with less-strict states--like MD, IL, NJ--let alone lenient states alike AR, TN, AZ, just confuses me. . . . . Congress nn + x can then pass a bill amending the first that the most stringent State rule applies. What good is National Reciprocity Carry if you have to follow DC, or NYS carry rules? . . . .

What will happen is that states like NY, NJ, etc will dictate the Federal rules. They will go something like this:
No carrying in office buildings, no carrying in any park, no carrying on any public transport, including Uber, no carrying ANYWHERE alcohol is sold - including restaurants, C-stores, grocery stores, no mag capacity greater than 6, no carrying anywhere a crowd of more than 10 people congregate, including a party at your place. . . .

CapnMac and George P have summed up my thoughts on a federal, national carry reciprocity. If and when federal law permits or requires reciprocity, it will be subject to the vagaries of federal politics. According to this site, and I leave you to judge its credibility on your own, the top ten electoral college states are:
State: Electoral Votes
California: 53
Texas: 36
New York: 27
Florida: 27
Pennsylvania: 18
Illinois: 18
Ohio: 16
Michigan: 14
Georgia: 14
North Carolina: 13
New Jersey: 12

Note that CA has almost 20 more electors than Texas and almost 30 more than New York. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Senators and Reps from CA, NY, IL and NJ (with a total 110 votes, according to that site's figures) will all likely vote for stricter CC requirements.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Driver's Licenses are recognized through the Interstate Compact on Driver's Licenses, a state-level collection of model laws adopted by (almost?) every state in the Union. There's no reason that CC licenses couldn't be handled the same way.

 

[AlexanderA]

A carry permit won't do you any good if you can't own a gun in the first place. The right to have guns is under fundamental attack, through the incremental outlawing of whole classes of weapons and whole classes of owners. Let's not get sidetracked, wasting precious political capital on a tangential procedural issue, which is what the carry permit controversy is. This is something that should be addressed once we have the luxury of knowing our basic ownership is secure. The next 10 years are going to be crucial to gun ownership in America. We're going to look back and think that the whole idea of carry permits was quaint.

 

[Hokkmike]

Nil. Notice how the GOP didn't bring it up for a vote in the senate even when they had a majority. So why bring it back now that there's no chance of it clearing the house? They're only doing it now to drum up the base and trot out the boogeyman for donations and to maintain the appearance of fighting for 2A.

It does give one reason to question their timing.

 

[GEM]

There are many folk who hold their nose to vote for the GOP because of the gun issue. If they solve the gun issue, then these independently minded voters may go elsewhere.

 

[P5 Guy]

True, so what amendment covers horse-drawn carriages? Again, none.

The 1st?
How are people to 'assemble' if they are not able to travel?
Some are too far from the assembly area to walk therefore a horse/carriage would be essential.

 

[paulsj]

The goals......

And our option is?

I picked candidates based on favorable pro vs con columns with respect to issues I cared about. The party of candidate was irrelevant. I suppose that how it should be done. Now seeing that government is disfunctional parties only carrying about winning to advance their own agendas I no longer bother to vote. Simply put as working wage earner I have no party that really represents me, therefore, voting isn't really going to help me.

 

[CapnMac]

too far from the assembly area to walk

The rule for sizing of Counties in Texas was that they could be no larger than a one-day ride with horse and wagon to the County Seat. Over the course of history, the distance a horse & wagon could travel changed, which is why some western Counties are two or three times the size of eastern ones.

While some polities are created based on travel for purpose of assembly, it's not my understanding that such travel is a legal requirement.

Which brings up a separate point. If a person needs to travel to assemble for redress of grievances, some travel is unsafe (even unto our modern times). Which suggests that the 2nd is a requisite part of exercising the 1st.

 

[George P]

The goals......


I picked candidates based on favorable pro vs con columns with respect to issues I cared about. The party of candidate was irrelevant. I suppose that how it should be done. Now seeing that government is disfunctional parties only carrying about winning to advance their own agendas I no longer bother to vote. Simply put as working wage earner I have no party that really represents me, therefore, voting isn't really going to help me.

You might check out the Libertarians......

 

[Pat Riot]

Both sides of the aisle benefit from this pandering. I am pretty sick of all of them. It’s almost as if it’s engineered manipulation for only one reason. Keeping certain types of lower life forms in power, regardless of their leanings.