Cowboy Load versus Half Cock
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UncleEd
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The half cock notch is nearly as susceptible to being broken
as the "safety" notch by a sharp blow to the hammer.
A person can tempt fate many, many times but then an
inadvertent handling of the old SA gun produces tragedy.
Ruger with the transfer bar took care of the problem. Before
that in its original 3-screw design, Ruger lost several injury cases.
as the "safety" notch by a sharp blow to the hammer.
A person can tempt fate many, many times but then an
inadvertent handling of the old SA gun produces tragedy.
Ruger with the transfer bar took care of the problem. Before
that in its original 3-screw design, Ruger lost several injury cases.
BobWright
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Carrying it or not, it is still better to leave an empty chamber under the hammer/firing pin. In the field, on the range, there is always the possibility of a mishap. A little inattention and a loaded revolver can be knocked off the bench, or a revolver dropped at an inopportune time. Better to be a live wimp than a dead hardhead. And being gun savvy is not wimpy.
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Part of the charm of traditional-style firearms is their traditional function. I replaced a 3 click hammer with a 4 click for just that reason. I doubt you'll find what you seek with a transfer bar.
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CraigC
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What Strawhat said.
All the octagon barrel Model P's are made by Pietta and thus far, they don't do a transfer bar or that goofy Uberti retractable firing pin.
Loading five rounds is as easy as pie when you've been doing it as long as I have. Don't know why some folks have such an issue with giving one up.
All the octagon barrel Model P's are made by Pietta and thus far, they don't do a transfer bar or that goofy Uberti retractable firing pin.
Loading five rounds is as easy as pie when you've been doing it as long as I have. Don't know why some folks have such an issue with giving one up.
Riomouse911
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Cimmaron makes the El Malo .45 Colt and Eliminator .357, but I think those are traditional SAA type revolvers w/o transfer bars (best to load 5). Not what you asked for
Unless you are in competition (SASS or similar), using it for ccw or are expecting a range war, loading 5 is no big deal. I actually prefer to load 5 with range/target revolvers since ammo inevitably comes in cartons/boxes based on 50/100, etc. Easy to fill the gun 10 times per box as it is 8 times with 2 rounds left over.
Good luck with your search.
Stay safe.
Speedo66
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Because their insurance company’s lawyer said so.
doubleh
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Many years ago a good friend shot himself in the leg with a single six revolver. This was long before the transfer bar was dreamed up. He was riding shotgun in an old WW II jeep chasing rabbits in a alfalfa patch at night and the the driver hit a berm. Roy went up in the air and when landing the hammer hit the door frame firing a shot into his lower leg. A 22 LR can make a mess at close range and it did. I took that as a hint to the wise and started loading five. Firearms knowledge was either gleaned from someone older or from magazine articles in those days and both of us were young and dumb with no one to mentor us about that type of revolver.
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The Hammerli Virginian and Interarms Virginian Dragoon had the "Swisssafe System"-an extra long cylinder pin. Had 2 notches, it could be locked back to keep the hammer from falling.
Ever wonder why Ruger got taken to court so many times it forced them into switching to a transfer bar system, while during the same time Colt continued to build and sell their traditional SAAs with the original action and are still doing so? No transfer bars in the Colts to this day.
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CajunBass
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I thought I was the only person who thought like that.
CraigC
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I don't think there were any legal hurdles with the transfer bar.
Driftwood Johnson
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These are the lockwork parts of a 2nd Generation Colt. The lower arrow is pointing to the tip of the trigger, the part that engages the cocking notches. Notice how thin the tip is. The upper arrow is pointing to the so called 'safety cock notch'. Time and time again it has been demonstrated that it does not take much force to break off the tip of the trigger, or the overhanging lip of the 'safety cock notch'. Time and time again it has been demonstrated that if dropped on the hammer, one of these components might break, allowing the hammer to fall all the way with the force of the blow, firing a cartridge under the hammer. Even Wyatt Earp had it happen once when his pistol slipped out of his pocket while he was sitting in a saloon. Luckily, nobody was hit that time.
Regarding an octagon barrelled Colt replica, Colt NEVER put octagon barrels on the Single Action Army. They were always round, even as far back as 1873 when the SAA was introduced. You may like the looks of an octagon barrel, you may think it makes the revolver look old, but Colt never put octagon barrels on the SAA.
Regarding an octagon barrelled Colt replica, Colt NEVER put octagon barrels on the Single Action Army. They were always round, even as far back as 1873 when the SAA was introduced. You may like the looks of an octagon barrel, you may think it makes the revolver look old, but Colt never put octagon barrels on the SAA.
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Me too.
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I was pretty sure no octs came on the SAA.
You can get them on conversion copies and it looks and works similar to the SAA but they are BP to BP cartridge conversion copies. Not safe to carry six but you can index between two chambers and it is somewhat safer than attempting to carry on half cock (loading position). I wouldn't holster carry that way but sometimes do that when shooting and laying it down on the bench for a few minutes between rounds.
You see a lot of those in westerns based on the end on the civil war time frame - Outlaw Josey Wales, The Good Bad and Ugly. 1860 and 1851 conversions and a few 58 Remingtons.
That may be the octagon barrels the OP was thinking about. Pietta makes em though in a 73 mdl.
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