coyote and bear bait

[mktvr]

planning on hunting coyote this winter, i was wondering what to use for bait. i have a good bit of left over blue fish from fishing this summer. Will coyotes take to that bait? What else can i use? Also, Im planning on hunting black bear this comming fall, we can also hunt them over bait. Will the fish work for bear, also what can i use and are their any good long term automatic feeders out there.
thanks

 

[Art Eatman]

About the only thing that I've found that coyotes won't eat are orange peels and suchlike. Otherwise? They smile on meat, fish, bread, potatoes'n'gravy, stale bread/cookies/biscuits...

, Art

 

[M.E.Eldridge]

If your state allows coyote hunting during deer season and you hunt deer, you can just use the internal organs from the deer, if you kill one as coyote bait. I've never used bait on song dogs, for me a good call will draw them in every time.

 

[Ankeny]

To be honest, I have never heard of someone baiting coyotes. I suppose it would work, but I wouldn't have the patience. With a call they are either in the bag in 20 minutes or I move on to another spot.

 

[mktvr]

do you recomend electronic calls? Here the only things you can't use electronic calls on are deer and turkey

 

[shermacman]

Here in Southeastern Massachusetts the coyotes like suburban cats...works for me.

 

[Art Eatman]

I've used a "baby boom box" with a Burnham Brothers wounded rabbit tape. Sometimes it's almost instantaneous; other times, no-show. Ya never know...

Art

 

[Ankeny]

The calling technique can vary depending on where you live. I call in central Wyoming where the terrain varies from open sage to rolling hills, to moon scapes. My usual area is about 600 square miles so I travel light, travel fast, and I call with a conventional hand/mouth call. I get a coyote to come in on average once out of every three stands so to kill a dozen on a weekend requires a person to move frequently.

 

[charby]

Here in Southeastern Massachusetts the coyotes like suburban cats...works for me.

ha ha

we call feral cats, ditch tigers and also they are also known as a coyote snacks.

 

[ScreamnEagle]

I do "ALOT !!!!!!!!"of Yotebusting and Bobcat hunting here in Southern Oklahoma....I use Scream'n Eagle calls made by non other than myself, many ppl around me use my calls. Have called up countless yotes and cats. I can either make them out of wood, or aluminum. The wooden calls (Oak) usually go for around $20.00 depending. Exotic woods (Maple, Ebany, Mahogany*, etc.) very depending on price of turning stock. Aluminum calls however go from 50.00 on up depending on how unique you want it, just because of the time and machine work involved, I am working on 3 wooden calls and one aluminum calls at the moment, once they are done I will post some pics. Howlers work good during mateing season, while rabit calls still work it is a good ideal to throw a howl in.

On the topic of baiting...never done it. get a weisel ball put some rabbit fur on it and start calling. I have had many cats accually attack the decoy. Calling is pretty easy and is a blast to watch the yote or cat run it.

Besure while hunting you use 110% cammo; body, face, hands...everything. then use a sent eliminator, I use carbon blast...works good...cover sents usually are to un-natural smelling and the smart a yote can catch wind of whats going on.

Gun: I use a Savage M11 22-250, loaded with a Sierra 52 HPBT, and 41 gr. of H380. seems to be a bang flop load...and very accurate.

When hunting I never shoot unless I know for sure I will hit him. Yotes are very quick learners, once you call one up and miss, it is hard to get him to come back, so take your time when shooting, don't get in a hurry.

 

[Sunray]

Before you use bait or an electronic call, check your local regulations. One or both may not be legal to use where you are.
For bear, doughnuts and anything else sweet will work. One thing you can start now is a large glass jar full of bacon grease. Come the Fall, poke some small holes in the lid and hang it in a tree in the sun, so the fat, melting from the sun's heat, drips down a tree near your stand. Yogi will be along.

 

[Art Eatman]

Cougars like the smell of bacon grease, also...

Art

 

[Bigreno]

I have hunted quite a few coyotes over bait here in N Texas. I use to hunt a 5,000 acre cattle ranch that had a dump pit for the dead cattle. I use to set up over the pit and catch them as they came in to feed. Have seen several bobcats and 2 mt. lions on the same ranch as well, but never saw them anywhere near the dump site.

 

[smitty03]

do you recomend electronic calls? Here the only things you can't use electronic calls on are deer and turkey

mktvr:
I use the FoxPro FX3 over here in Eastern WA and it works great! There are so many sound options to choose from when you need to mix it up. It's really nice because sometimes they won't respond to wounded rabbit sounds, because they've figured that one out from hard hunting in that area; So we'll mix it up w/ a fawn distress or something out of the norm...
Next up: Bobcats at night!

 

[Gordon]

A disgusting rancher I know of goes coyote fishing! Baits with some meat a big saltwater treble hooks on a wire leader about 30" off the ground from a tree limb. He makes the rounds in the morning

 

[Art Eatman]

A bunch of us used to lease a 7,000-acre ranch near Uvalde, Texas. The rancher brought in some 1,000 goats, to do the usual production of young goats for market.

The first year, he had a 60% kid crop. After intensive trapping of bobcats and coyotes, in the second year he got an 80% kid crop. That's 200 more marketable goats at some $50 per each. $10,000 beats a jab in the eye with a sharp stick.

IOW, you can understand the motivation of a rancher, even as you reasonably decry his methods.

Art

 

[Gordon]

That was tongue in cheek ART. The old codger who has a 9000 acre spread, is a drinking buddy.

 

[3006mv]

In urban southern California yotes will eat oranges off of the trees along with avocados and figs and grapes etc. Seriously. Check your regs for baiting. Spotlighting and calls are good also. Do you mean baiting for trapping? Shooting over cow or deer carcass is good. Skinned bobcat carcass is really good. Commercial fox urine in an area is also a good lure. As for 'fishing' that to me seems rather cruel and unsportsmanlike, it is a lazy way of doing things, learn some skills and jaw trap or snare or shoot them and be proficient in those traditions and tracking too and pass them on to your children. Get some flock guardian dogs like Great Pyrenees or a mule or donkey or burro. Coyotes don't understand things like the almighty dollar and profit margin. They exist to clean up carrion and hunt vermin. That fishing rancher should share his land and allow others to hunt those predators off. That wouldn't cost him a thing. I was a government trapper and found yotes to be a very cunning and formidable foe so in that regard had to respect and admire them too. Nothing worse than an "educated" coyote, learned up from your mistakes or a bad shot.

 

[Highland Ranger]

Doughnuts for the bears.

Coffee optional . . . .

 

[Lupinus]

I have found that the best universal bait is a car in perfect condition going down the highway at night with the lights on doing somewhere between 65 and 80.

The animals will actualy jump infront of the car and stand nice and still for you.

Works best on a nice ten point buck but it is pretty universal and I have taken two coyotes with this bait

 

[saddlebum]

Doughnuts for the bears.

Coffee optional . . . .

i tried that, but kept eatin all the bait on the way to my stand.

 

[chuckmo]

Hey Art

I've got a client coming in to hunt predators in early Feb. Here in MO, we've been covered in ice for a while, and everything is starving. The coyotes are mating, and I've been seeing them out in the open, along with red fox. I've been trying this baiting thing lately, too, and today got three fresh deer roadkills and put them out in a field where I'd had a couple of not-so-fresh ones. Coyote tracks all over in the snow, dragged one of them off, they're really hitting it. How should I set up and call coyotes over bait, in an area with the very real possibility of fox and bobcat coming in? We'd love to get a chance at them, too.

 

[Bigreno]

That's some serious necro. You might want to start a new thread about this.

 

[andyvers]

hi ive been baiting yotes for 3 weeks now and they have started coming in on a regular basis. I am using dead chickens, rabbits, goats, and meat scraps from my local butcher. All these animals are free and the farmers are very happy cause otherwise they have to pay to dispose of them. The crows find them kinda fast and with all the commotion they cause they tell the coyotes and foxes exactly were the buffet is. After coyotes started to use my bait i just tied goats to surrounding trees so they cant drag them away and have to feast in place. still put out some food to attract crows cause they are good indicators of an approaching coyote, they take off in a panic .

every time i bring new bait i lite a bear attracting sniff stick . its like ringing a dinner bell . HUNTING THE BAIT FIRST TIME THIS WEEK END wish me luck!!

 

[Weedy]

coyote fishing?

"A disgusting rancher I know of goes coyote fishing! Baits with some meat a big saltwater treble hooks on a wire leader about 30" off the ground from a tree limb. He makes the rounds in the morning"

Wow, that's one of the most unethical things I can think of. Disgusting indeed.