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Crappy glock trigger pull?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Cheeseybacon, Nov 16, 2006.

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  1. Cheeseybacon

    Cheeseybacon Member

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    I finally have my permit and now I'm thinking about a sub-compact 9mm for carrying. A friend of mine in LE has a GLOCK 33 in .357 SIG which uses the same frame as the gun that I am considering, the GLOCK 26. He says they're a great gun and all, but the trigger pull in his opinion is unnecessarally hard due to the DAO/Safe Action. Any truth to this? I don't get to see the guy all that often, otherwise I would just try his 33 out and see for myself. Does the trigger pull really suck that bad?
     
  2. 10-Ring

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    REALLY? IMO, the Glock trigger is diff't than most others out there but definitely you can learn it & master it...like I always say, there's no substitute for trigger time! ;)
     
  3. daysleeprx

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    I think Glock triggers can be easily adjusted with an aftermarket connector.

    Correct me if I'm wrong Glockers!
     
  4. Froggy

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    Standard trigger pull on a GLOCK is 5.5 lbs.

    You also can find them with (I believe) 3.5 lb triggers and the so called "NY trigger" at 12 lbs. If you are ordering one new from the distributor, specify your choice. And, yes, it is the connector that makes the difference.
     
  5. Cheeseybacon

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    Why are the 12lb triggers called NY triggers? :confused:
     
  6. Froggy

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    As I understand the story, the NYPD wanted a trigger pull that approximated that on the revolvers previously carried. Their concern was that the stress involved in the use of sidearms could too easily lead to ND if the trigger pull was too light. They had Glock design a trigger that met their needs before they would contract the buy.
     
  7. georgeduz

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    ( Does the trigger pull really suck that bad?) NO. sure its not as good as 1911,s but i would not say it sucks.i have a mod30 for my 120lb wife and she loves it.after all it still alot better than those double action autos.
     
  8. GRIZ22

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    Froggy's right. The agency I retired from wanted a heavier trigger and Glock made up an 8 lb. I never had any problem with it and although I could change the trigger on the G26 I carried I left the 8 lb. Your friend might the NY or NY plus which is 12 lb and gives a long pull like a revolver. The 5.5 is fine. The 3,5 lb trigger is really for competition and not really desirable for a carry gun.
     
  9. SDC

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    It's like learning to shoot a DA revolver, only with a lighter pull. The "rated" pulls on the connectors are somewhat misleading, since a 3.5 connector won't actually give you a 3.5 pound trigger (mine gave me a 5.5 pound pull after a bit of polishing, so it remained legal for IPSC Production).
     
  10. Dienekes

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    Yes, it does.
     
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    Lightest is 3.5 pounds
    Factory is 5.5 pounds
    NY1 is 8 pounds
    NY2 is 12 pounds

    I find the factory pull to be very smooth. I personally wouldn't put a 3.5 spring in a carry gun.
     
  12. Cheeseybacon

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    Wow, that's really interesting. I had no idea that Glocks had factory options for so many different trigger pulls. Being as my friend is in LE I guess it is possible that he has a NY trigger. That would probably explain his distain for the extra hard tigger.
     
  13. CPshooter

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    I installed a rocket 3.5lbs connector along w/ the smooth glock trigger and it has made a HUGE difference, but i still think the Glock trigger is poorly designed inthe first place. I don't like that they are made with plastic, so i even ordered a nice, smooth aluminum trigger from some website and it also was a bad choice..especially for 100 dollars. The safety in the center of the trigger was actually much too wide so when you pulled the trigger you felt the center pad of your finger actually falling INTO the groove where the safety pivots in. This felt worse than the thin, uncomfortable, stock trigger safety. Basically, you can get the glock trigger light and even pretty short w/ any aftermarket trigger parts, but the damn things still hurt your finger after 150 rounds of shooting. My G19 w/ the 3.5lbs trigger pull and the smooth trigger from Glock(still plastic and crappy though) feels ok, but the totally stock trigger setup i have on my G27 carry gun makes it painful to shoot. I also think the trigger angle makes it a pain in the rear to shoot accurately, but I'm a picky person and alot of other people might think im way off here. My opinion i guess...

    A 1911(of course), a sig, H&K, or even an XD offer a much more pleasant shooting experience when it comes to the trigger pull than a Glock does.
     
  14. GunNut

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    Keep the trigger stock and practice dry firing.

    The trigger is very easy to get used to and is actually pretty good once you get used to it.

    It's a CCW weapon, so you will be well served with a 5-8lb trigger pull. If it were a competition gun, then a lighter trigger pull would be better.

    All of my Glock's are equipped with factory triggers and all of them are still more accurate than me.

    Steve
     
  15. Cheeseybacon

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    You know, I never thought about it, but I think you're right. This gun will be carried often but probably seldom fired, so a very light trigger would make the gun more likely to accidentally fire if the trigger got snagged on something. Looks like a 5.5 or 8lb trigger is what I need.
     
  16. Froggy

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    Yep, stay away from the light trigger if it is to be a carry gun.

    I have the standard 5.5 lb trigger on my G19. As others have said, the Glock trigger takes a little getting used to, but mine (at least) is pretty smooth. If you like everything else about the Glock, you shouldn't let the reputation of a "crappy" trigger scare you away from it until you try it for yourself.

    If you are not yet firmly set on the Glock, you might try a few other subcompacts for fit and feel while you are at it.
     
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    After taking two defensive pistol courses with my Glock and with a third comming up next month, the trigger is actually quite good for what it is. Glocks are combat pistols with combat reliability, combat sights, combat calibers, combat capacity, combat accuracy and combat triggers. You can modify the triggers with other connectors but, I opted to do the 0.25 cent trigger job which cut down on stacking while pulling the trigger initially for the first of multiple shots. After the first shot, Glock triggers have a great and easily learnable reset that makes follow up shots a breaze. This is due to not having to deal with the stacking of the trigger by squeezing the trigger for the second shot directly from the point of trigger reset and not from the full trigger stroke that is associated with the first full trigger pull of the first shot.

    Flip.
     
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    No issues with the Glock trigger pull. Best to try shooting one and see if you like it. Once you learn the reset your speed and accuracy will increase.
     
  20. Desertscout

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    I have 2 Glocks with 2.75# trigger pulls. I don't have any issues at all with any of them.
     
  21. GRIZ22

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    I think some may be making the same mistake I did when I first fired a Glock back in the 80s when they hit the market. I tried shooting it as if it were a double action trigger. Never liked it. The way to shoot a Glock is like a heavy single action. You take up the slack and when you hit 5.5 or 8 pounds it goes off. I'm comfortable using the 8# but the 12# is ridiculous.
     
  22. jlh26oo

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    imo there is no definitive answer to this question- whether you like the glock trigger or not is highly ymmv.

    It's not particularly light, but can be made so (I wouldn't WANT any lighter than the 3.5# setup in my G34). It's not particularly crisp, especially if you are used to a 1911 (even the XD's break is more crisp than the GLOCK). It's not particularly smooth, compared to a revolver DA. In fact, it almost has a "skid" at the end, which alot of people hate (what they refer to as "mushy" or "spongey").

    Despite the above seemingly negative description- it is my FAVORITE trigger. I don't like SA triggers (gasp) no matter how light or crisp; I don't like the long reset of a true DAO; I even prefer the little skid at the end- you can kind of "cheat" it if you are slow firing, like a second stage; yet it gives you a consistent pull from the first to last round and short reset for rapid fire. Great all around, all purpose configuration (for me).

    Highly recommend it, and moreso the GLOCK package as a whole; but as always, imo only and ymmv. Something you have to try to see if you like for yourslef.
     
  23. Lonestar

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    Like others have said the trigger pull weight is adjustable. The trigger does not suck, it is just a different feel them most other triggers.
     
  24. Navy joe

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    CPshooter, as far as the trigger hurting the finger I think that is the biggest impediment to shooting a Glock repeatedly, quickly, and with accuracy. As soon as I get one I lop off the two tips of the trigger rendering it flat, then shave the trigger safety so that fully depressed it is flush with the trigger. It takes a sharp knife, a little fine sandpaper, and 5 minutes.

    As far as pull weights, There are a plethora of options. I use a Ghost Rocket #5 connector in my carry Glock along with a heavy trigger bar spring and a standard striker spring. Combined with some careful polishing, good grease, and keeping the striker channel clean I have a crisp 5lb trigger, it takes up much shorter than stock and thanks to the overtravel stop on the ghost rocket the reset is verrry short. I can shoot way faster than I can think with that trigger.

    My play Glock has a #3.5 in it, reduced striker spring, heavy triggerbar spring, polishing and a few other things. It strokes more like a very light DA and breaks at 2.5lbs. I could get it way less, but it scares me.

    As for trading out springs and such, keep stock weight springs if you are going to carry, no sense in reduced power springs causing reliability problems.
     
  25. erict

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    My first handgun was a Glock so I never knew how "horrible" they really were. It was all I really knew so I got used to it pretty quick.

    The funny thing now is, I actually prefer the Glock trigger since I've shot them so much (owned 6 Glocks so far). I can always pick up my Glock and unload a mag (fast or slow), and it puts the holes right where I want them to go.

    Practice makes perfect and once you learn to take up all of the slack right away, or on follow up shots, it's really not a bad set up at all.
     
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