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So I was researching some home-made gascheck options for my cast 45 and 357 boolits, and I first saw this at Cast Boolits.com although it's been discussed here as well.
How about adding some cream of wheat filler in between the powder and the base of the bullet when loading? Supposed to do some *nice* bore cleaning action, and if you work up to it, it's supposed to allow shooting some hotter lead bullet loads without leading. the principle is supposed to be that the cream of wheat is compressed up against the bullet base, and acts as a gas check.
So here's the thing I'm throwing out for the peanut gallery. (I've gotten a bunch of cautionary responses from the gang at castboolits.com) I've made up some test loads for 45ACP/230LRN and 357/158LSWC using W231 powder and up to 8-10 grains of cream of wheat filler. I've reduced the powder charges by about 50% and would like to work up a load using Cream of Wheat. I've used enough cream of wheat in my 45ACP and my 357 loads to fill the empty space above the powder with slight to a little bit of compression. Would you worry about possible explosive results with this? The castboolits gang express concern about compressing a fast powder like 231. The guy who posted the pictures has done this with Red Dot and Unique.
I've already made the loads and am thinking of trying out the weakest of them today or tomorrow. For instance, in my 357 (a Ruger Sp101 built tough), the max load for 158LSWC in 357magnum is between 5.5 and 6.7 grains of W231 depending on which guide you use. I cut my starting load with 158LSWC and cream of wheat down to 2.0 grains of 231 (my normal light plinking load is 3.8 grains of 231 under the 158LSWC). These loads have about 8 grains of cream of wheat on top of them, so the powder charge is effectively pushing a 158+8=166 grain bullet once the cream of wheat gets jammed up to the base of the bullet. My Lee#2 guide says the max W231 charge for a 200 grain lead bullet is 5.7 grains of W231, so in terms of powder charge and total bullet weight, I'm way way below that limit. the only unknown I can see is will a fast powder like 231 go nuts on me if it is even slightly compressed by the cream of wheat on top of it?
I guess I'm guilty a little bit of asking around until I get the answer I want (which is, of course, "go for it you're fine!"), but it will give me pause and maybe I just'll throw these out if people keep telling me "danger danger will robinson". (Or at least, I might throw these out and do them over with Unique powder which this guy used successfully). What do you all say (and I know a lot of you also likely frequent castboolits.com but please fire away anyway!)
LINK to cast boolits thread
Link to THR thread
45ACP bore after regular lead rounds
45ACP bore after 20 of the cream of wheat rounds
45ACP bore after all the above and a bore snake once-over
The pictures are mighty compelling looking to me!
How about adding some cream of wheat filler in between the powder and the base of the bullet when loading? Supposed to do some *nice* bore cleaning action, and if you work up to it, it's supposed to allow shooting some hotter lead bullet loads without leading. the principle is supposed to be that the cream of wheat is compressed up against the bullet base, and acts as a gas check.
So here's the thing I'm throwing out for the peanut gallery. (I've gotten a bunch of cautionary responses from the gang at castboolits.com) I've made up some test loads for 45ACP/230LRN and 357/158LSWC using W231 powder and up to 8-10 grains of cream of wheat filler. I've reduced the powder charges by about 50% and would like to work up a load using Cream of Wheat. I've used enough cream of wheat in my 45ACP and my 357 loads to fill the empty space above the powder with slight to a little bit of compression. Would you worry about possible explosive results with this? The castboolits gang express concern about compressing a fast powder like 231. The guy who posted the pictures has done this with Red Dot and Unique.
I've already made the loads and am thinking of trying out the weakest of them today or tomorrow. For instance, in my 357 (a Ruger Sp101 built tough), the max load for 158LSWC in 357magnum is between 5.5 and 6.7 grains of W231 depending on which guide you use. I cut my starting load with 158LSWC and cream of wheat down to 2.0 grains of 231 (my normal light plinking load is 3.8 grains of 231 under the 158LSWC). These loads have about 8 grains of cream of wheat on top of them, so the powder charge is effectively pushing a 158+8=166 grain bullet once the cream of wheat gets jammed up to the base of the bullet. My Lee#2 guide says the max W231 charge for a 200 grain lead bullet is 5.7 grains of W231, so in terms of powder charge and total bullet weight, I'm way way below that limit. the only unknown I can see is will a fast powder like 231 go nuts on me if it is even slightly compressed by the cream of wheat on top of it?
I guess I'm guilty a little bit of asking around until I get the answer I want (which is, of course, "go for it you're fine!"), but it will give me pause and maybe I just'll throw these out if people keep telling me "danger danger will robinson". (Or at least, I might throw these out and do them over with Unique powder which this guy used successfully). What do you all say (and I know a lot of you also likely frequent castboolits.com but please fire away anyway!)
LINK to cast boolits thread
Link to THR thread
45ACP bore after regular lead rounds
45ACP bore after 20 of the cream of wheat rounds
45ACP bore after all the above and a bore snake once-over
The pictures are mighty compelling looking to me!