Currently available .45 ACP carbines?

[MMcfpd]

I'm considering getting a Beretta CX4 Storm in .45 ACP. What I'm wondering is if there are other .45 ACP carbines I might consider instead.

The pistol conversion doesn't interest me nor does the heavyweight Thompson, and I already have a few .45 ACP carbines: Fox Wasp, HK USC and AR-15.

 

[jonnyc]

I just built a bolt-action .45ACP carbine on an Enfield No.4 action. Something a bit different.

 

[MMcfpd]

That does sound kind of interesting, but I think a semiauto is what I'm looking for.

 

[chris in va]

You can always wait for the ever-promised HiPoint Carbine in 45. That was back in what...2004?

 

[Nick5182]

Look into Feather USA. They make some pretty sweet looking carbines and you might find something you like.

 

[Avenger29]

Currently available, or currently in production?

Currently produced
There's the Kriss Super V http://www.kriss-tdi.com/
The Beretta CX-4 Storm.

I'd go with the Beretta, but I'd shoot one before I brought one. They ain't for everybody...

 

[Nick5182]

The Kriss system looks awesome and the recoil reducing design seems to be a hit, but the Kriss is pretty pricey isn't it? The reason I brought up the Feather carbine is because base MSRP is about 599. Something more towards the CX4's price range.

 

[nwilliams]

The Cx4 is a heck of a nice gun. I have one in 9mm and it's amazingly accurate and extremely reliable. No experience with the .45 version unfortunately.

 

[BBroadside]

Are any of the manufacturers certifying them for 45 Super? Or is it left up to brave people "pushing the envelope" to see what the carbs can handle?

jonnyc, have you written more about the 45 ACP Lee-Enfield conversion? I've heard of an unmuffled (no suppressor) DeLisle before, but never a Lee-Enfield.... I'm intrigued (i.e. jealous).

 

[MMcfpd]

I know my HK USC and .45 AR-15 will handle .45 +P.

That Kriss is kind of interesting, but that may be a wait until I win the Lottery thing.

I'd jump on the HiPoint if it ever came out just because I know it'd be cheap and not too hard to sell if I really didn't like it.

I do recall running across the Feather USA RAV-45 before. That one may bear a little further investigation.

I'd go with the Beretta, but I'd shoot one before I brought one. They ain't for everybody...

And this I've heard, mostly in reference to the trigger.

 

[rondog]

jonnyc, have you written more about the 45 ACP Lee-Enfield conversion? I've heard of an unmuffled (no suppressor) DeLisle before, but never a Lee-Enfield.... I'm intrigued (i.e. jealous).

That's essentially what a DeLisle is, a modified Enfield with a Thompson SMG barrel on it and the magwell modified to accept 1911 magazines. Then that whole suppressor thing too. I want one. I LUST for one.

 

[DeepSouth]

Tommy Gun

 

[chris in va]

Oh forgot...if you already have a 1911, just get the carbine conversion for it. Not terribly expensive and they seem to work.

 

[rangerruck]

marlin and ruger made one, used, but you can still find them. Also but not sure, the kel tec, I know they do a 9 and a 40, not sure on a 45.
I think beretta makes the best right now; all controls are ambi. However if you have the money, the kriss does look double tough.

 

[Gelgoog]

Marlin Camp .45 is probably your best bet. It uses the plentiful 1911 mags.

The beretta CX4 is restricted to 8 round mags which is kind of lame. If they had hi cap mags I would have bought one myself.

 

[tunnug]

That Enfield almost looks like a rifle I held (bought and sold back) for a friend, it was a Destroyer which originally came out in 9mm and used 1911 mags, he had it re-barreled and opened up the bolt to accept the .45, that thing was a real bloop gun with that heavy barrel and no recoil, lots of fun to shoot, wish I had taken pictures, it was a neat gun.

 

[MMcfpd]

When I began my quest for a .45 ACP semi carbine the Marlin Camp was what I initially looked for. I didn't find one for quite a while, and then I had the USC and the Fox Wasp. I might start looking at them again, but they've certainly gone up in price, or at least had last time I noticed.

When did they stop making them?

ETA - Doesn't someone make a repro DeLisle?

 

[Avenger29]

If you get a .45ACP Marlin, immediately replace the bolt buffer and the recoil spring (with a heavier one). Blackjack buffers makes one for the Marlin, as does somebody else. The Marlins are undersprung from the factory and the factory bolt buffer is likely deterioted. You can end up with a cracked stock or even a cracked receiver if you do not take these precautions. The same precautions apply to the 9mm Carbines, too, but they are not nearly as undersprung.

 

[TehK1w1]

+1 for what Avenger29 said. The Camp 9 and Camp 45 both came with recoil springs rated for about 11lbs. Wolff sells upgraded springs.
The 9mm needs the springs almost as badly as the 45, when we got the 9mm version we had to repair/replace some parts.

 

[MMcfpd]

I remember learning about the buffer and spring upgrades back when I first looked for a Marlin Camp Carbine.

It was Valkyrie Arms that was once proprietor of the DeLisle reproduction. It appears that they are currently proprietor of only a nifty logo.

 

[steven04]

Here's my De Lisle...Suppressor is fully functional

The suppressor at the top of the pic is my Reflex T16...for my .50BMG

 

[jonnyc]

I got my Enfield conversion kit from Special Interest Arms. You can find them on the 'net. While mine is a straight 16.5in. rifle barrel, they do a suppressed and a "look-alike" DeLisle kit also.

 

[buckmeister]

There are also AR Blow-back and Direct Impingement versions. I have both flavors. Both use Grease Gun magazines. The DI is lighter with less recoil... actually very little recoil. Either can sit on a Cavalry Arms MKII lower or a standard AR lower (using TOK magazines).

buckmeister