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Mr Wack,
That was my point.
Denis, LOL!!!!
That was my point.
Denis, LOL!!!!
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expat_alaska
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No, Mike, I don't like "used" as opposed to "new". I only own two Piettas, but they never see rain. I like them as pristine as they came from the factory.
Anyone during the ACW (or at any time) would have wanted to protect their sidearm/horse pistol from the elements. The most effective way would be to liberally coat their leather with oil, whether it be from hog fat (because that was the main animal protein source at the time) or some other source (cattle never became a mainstay until after the ACW). Raw leather is very hygroscopic and if left untreated, the pristine NEW revolver would be a chunk of rust in a matter of months under wartime outdoor conditions. As this is a flap holster, it was designed to cover and protect the entire firearm from the elements. These soldiers were dirty, unwashed victims of a political convulsion, fighting for a "Cause" on either side, and every precaution they could take to somewhat insure that their weapons would function in the long run was a real deal. Hog grease on leather was a simple, cheap deterrent, and as such, surely changed the color and the texture of the leather.
So, I like nicely toned and preserved leather with a new or like-new pistol in it.
Jim
I will attempt a translation, with the understanding that I'm probably all wet. 
I read this as a conclusion, not a question. It is based on the presumption that Colt revolvers were so expensive during the Civil War era that only wealthy individuals could afford to "buy new." Therefore the majority of those that did have revolvers were reduced for economic reasons to having used ones.
Confederates were under an even greater handicap when it came to having new Colt revolvers. This to a degree was true, as obviously after the war started they couldn't order directly from the factory, or recognized distributor. But between what they could capture, or import from Europe and England, most of the difficulty in arms procurement did not come to crises proportions. They unquestionably suffered from the lack of arms using metallic cartridges, such as the Spencer and Henry plus assorted single shots. On the other hand they imported European pin-fire arms - that have been largely ignored by collectors.
Excluding the knife (and of course they had similar ones) the "collection" consists of a revolver with belt and holster - which reasonably duplicates what was issued in the Union Army - and all were brand new when they were issued. The identical set-up (leather & revolver) could be purchased from retail gun dealers for reasonable cost, at that time.
As an aside: Gen. Robert E. Lee's 1851 Navy was personally purchased by Lee well before the Civil War started. I believe at the time he held the rank of Major or Colonel.
Yup. To collect the real thing you need a considerable amount of discretionary income. That's why we are fortunate that affordable replicas are available.
I read this as a conclusion, not a question. It is based on the presumption that Colt revolvers were so expensive during the Civil War era that only wealthy individuals could afford to "buy new." Therefore the majority of those that did have revolvers were reduced for economic reasons to having used ones.
Confederates were under an even greater handicap when it came to having new Colt revolvers. This to a degree was true, as obviously after the war started they couldn't order directly from the factory, or recognized distributor. But between what they could capture, or import from Europe and England, most of the difficulty in arms procurement did not come to crises proportions. They unquestionably suffered from the lack of arms using metallic cartridges, such as the Spencer and Henry plus assorted single shots. On the other hand they imported European pin-fire arms - that have been largely ignored by collectors.
Excluding the knife (and of course they had similar ones) the "collection" consists of a revolver with belt and holster - which reasonably duplicates what was issued in the Union Army - and all were brand new when they were issued. The identical set-up (leather & revolver) could be purchased from retail gun dealers for reasonable cost, at that time.
As an aside: Gen. Robert E. Lee's 1851 Navy was personally purchased by Lee well before the Civil War started. I believe at the time he held the rank of Major or Colonel.
Yup. To collect the real thing you need a considerable amount of discretionary income. That's why we are fortunate that affordable replicas are available.
expat_alaska
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Denis, you have posted that at least 3 times, and I STILL don't know what "question" you are referring to.
Please refer to the thread and post # if replying. Sorry if I am a cut below everyone's intelligence here.
Given your abundance of ability to create documents concerning our hobby and your understanding of copyright laws and such, I understand you are a man of many talents. I have read many of your posts and appreciate them.
Kudos to you, sir.
Jim
expat_alaska
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Denis, you will just have to 'splain it to me as I have no clue.
Cordially,
Jim
Cordially,
Jim
jgh4445
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I don't know why Denis doesn't understand. What question?
JN01
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Nice write up and photos. I have a question though, with the modified hammer slot and post to prevent spent caps from jamming up the works, are the safety pins on the back of the cylinder still usable?
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Just an update:
Now the cap post is left "fat" at installation and "fitted" to the slot in the hammer. Since the slots are not all located exactly in the center, I dress the post to fit the slot and leave the slot as it is in the hammer. The benefit is a working post, original safety slot and a stronger post that is thicker front to back (rectangular if you will).
Of course, the slot is still deepened (behind the hammer face) and lengthened to accommodate the post. The hammer face is left "stock".
Mike
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Now the cap post is left "fat" at installation and "fitted" to the slot in the hammer. Since the slots are not all located exactly in the center, I dress the post to fit the slot and leave the slot as it is in the hammer. The benefit is a working post, original safety slot and a stronger post that is thicker front to back (rectangular if you will).
Of course, the slot is still deepened (behind the hammer face) and lengthened to accommodate the post. The hammer face is left "stock".
Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks
JN01
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Cool. I see a Goonerized Pocket Police in my future.
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