CW9 vs. G19 ?

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Apple vs an Orange.. 15 round double stack vs a single stack...both decent guns, whichever one you'd rather carry I guess.
 
Yep - completely different animals - unless you're just wanting to compare double-stacks to single stacks in general (in which case for carry I'd say single-stacks are more comfortable to conceal).

The Kahr CW9 would compare more closely with the announced but not released Glock G43.
 
The Cw9 is quiet a bit thinner than a G19, and is a bit easier to conceal.
The Glock has it beat in many other ways, IMO
Build quality
Material quality
Design
Reliability
Capacity

I'm not a fan of Kahrs quality control, it's too hit or miss, and after having more than one apart IMO their polymer guns have a flexy frame and an uninspiring design.
 
The Glock has higher capacity the Kahr has better ergonomics. Put them both in your hand and shoot them both and you will know the right choice. Nobody can do that for you and a lot on the Internet is B.S.
 
The Glock has it beat in many other ways, IMO
Build quality
Material quality
Design
Reliability
Capacity
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I don't find my Glocks to have any better build quality or material quality than the Kahrs I've owned or had experience with. They are both very good in terms of build quality and finish (but not in the same league as HK or Walther in my experience).

Glocks use tenifer-treated steel and Kahrs typically use stainless, so both are very corrosion-resistant. I haven't noticed one to wear any worse than the other. The matte finish on more recent Glock slides definitely shows finish wear sooner than the tougher, smoother Glock finish of old.

The polymer quality of both seem similar (which is to say a bit worse than the much nicer-looking and rigid-feeling polymers HK or Walther use).

Design is subjective in many respects, of course. I hate the flimsy design of the 7-round Kahr mag baseplates (at least for the PM9/CM9/MK9-sized guns), but the 6-rounders are stout. DAO striker versus pre-cocked striker is a user preference.

In terms of reliability, both my Kahr CM9 and MK9 have been flawless through thousands of rounds. This is more than I can say for my Glock 19 (which suffered an early breakage of the slide stop spring, causing numerous pre-mature slide locks and stoppages). After repair, though, the Glock 19 has been flawless.

Capacity - well, different capacities for different roles. Both are very good pistols for their intended uses. The Glock 19 is one of the smaller pistols I can think of that holds 15 rounds (along with the similarly-sized Walther P99/PPQ).


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I like both for different reasons... CC the kahr wins - multi use the g19 wins but at the cost of size n weight. I say get bot and carry both at different times :neener: That should be clear as mud!
 
Had both, kept the CW9 and sold the G19. Only reason was I like the grip angle on the Kahr....Glock shot way high for me. I guess, if I was completely honest, I liked the Glock but the Kahr is thinner and easier to pack.
 
Fishbed77 said:
...Glocks use tenifer-treated steel and Kahrs typically use stainless, so both are very corrosion-resistant. I haven't noticed one to wear any worse than the other. The matte finish on more recent Glock slides definitely shows finish wear sooner than the tougher, smoother Glock finish of old.
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Glock hasn't used tenifer in several years now, and you're not the only one to notice the new,thinner finish wears much more easily.
Walther,S&W, and I believe Ruger are using tenifer on the slides of their current polymer framed pistols.
And, to address the OP, I'd take the G19 over a Kahr, all day long.
 
I have both the Glock and the Kahr CW9. The only thing I would
improve on the CW9 would be the trigger. I just don't like it. The
Glock has things that you can buy to improve the trigger. I haven't
seen anything for the CW9 trigger.
Zeke
 
Walther,S&W, and I believe Ruger are using tenifer on the slides of their current polymer framed pistols.
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Correct that Glocks aren't using the proprietary Tenifer salt bath nitriding treatment on newer pistols. They are using a similar nitriding process. Walther still uses the Tenifer process.

Don't forget, though, that the blackened finish of the Glock slide is separate from the nitriding process. It is this visible finish of the new Glocks that is inferior and less durable than the finish of old. One would expect that the new nitriding process is probably just as good as Tenifer.

S&W uses the very similar Melonite nitriding process on their M&P line. Here is an explanation of the two processes - they are functionally the same.

http://www.finishing.com/324/69.shtml

Not sure what Ruger uses on their pistols these days.


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CW9 vs G19

I currently have two CW9s (wife and I)---both run 100% with any 115-124 grain ammo I have tried (never have owned and 147 ammo)---very thin and lightweight pistol---you forget you're even wearing it after a short while---the Glock 19 is just a much larger pistol that carries more ammo, but is so much bigger.
If I want a smaller pistol with more 9mm onboard, I would carry my HK P2000sk pistol...
 
I have both, the CW9's grip length is nearly identical to the G19, believe it or not... Width and weight play into the CW9's favor, but overall "shootability", capacity, trigger, "feel" go to the G19.

I would rather carry a G26 than either one of them.
 
The Kahr is thinner, smaller, and lighter. For those reason many will find it easier to conceal and carry. However Id much rather have a G19 if I knew I were going to get in a gun fight. I have found a g19 can be concealed relatively easily in a T shirt and jeans carrying AIWB. My preference would be to have a G19 as a primary and then something like a CM9 for times when you want to be very discreet.

I own kahrs and they are good guns IMHO and a very nice size to carry. If I were starting over I'd probably get a PPS for that size of a single stack.
 
I vote Glock, and would suggest a Gen 4 G23 over the 19. You are only giving up two rounds, and it fires them more reliably than the 19. I like Kahr, but I don't like the need (at their suggestion) to fire a few hundred rounds through them before relying on them for defense. The Glock will run 100% right out of the box.

With 4 grip options included with the gen4, you should find one that fits nicely.
 
Glock pros:
Great customer service
Durable design
Many accessories available

Glock cons:
Fairly wide gun
Heavier gun for all day carry


Kahr pros:
Ergonomic design
Very concealable
Decent trigger

Kahr cons:
Customer service is fair
Magazine followers break on some guns
 
For concealed carry I would think the smaller GLOCK 26 would be a better size to compare to the Kahr.

However, I routinely carry my G19 concealed.

From another perspective, if limited to only one gun I would pick a Gen4 GLOCK 19. It just works...

Edmo
 
FWIW I have a Generation 4 Glock 19. I used to carry it most of the time but was too big for some situations. I bought a Kel Tec PF-9 for my smaller gun and it is with me most of the time now. I am looking hard at the Glock 43 but will wait a while. The PF-9 size of gun seems to be just right for my needs.
 
One is a pocket gun and the other a 15 round duty or personal defense pistol. 2 different purposes, get one for around the neighborhood and the 19 for more serious carry like when you are going to the mall. or on a longer trip. Plus one is 2/3 the weight of the other, "if that". You can pocket carry the Kahr, the 19 needs a holster.
 
minutemen1776 said:
I have to ask. How does the G23 fire rounds more reliably than the G19? :scrutiny:
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I was kinda wondering that too. They're the same gun, with the caveat that the Glock frame was originally designed for 9mm and then later adapted to .40S&W.

Its not like they're known to be unreliable in .40S&W or anything, but they're certainly not MORE reliable in .40S&W.
 
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