CZ 452 Scout

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  1. Danny Creasy

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    I new that my 452 collection would never be complete without a little Scout, so I could not pass up an opportunity to purchase one this week. A friend had three Scouts - one scope sighted, one aperture sighted, and one open sighted. I offered to buy the open sighted one from her and she agreed.

    Years ago, I was in a bait shop in Savannah, Georgia. One little dark corner of the store had an eclectic selection of firearms accessories hanging about the walls. One often sees Pachmayr slip-on shotgun recoil pads but seldom the smaller rifle version. On an impulse, I purchased the terra cotta colored boot with the thought of increasing the length of pull on my Norinco JW-15 Sporter. Well, it was actually to big and loose, so the recoil pad has rested in the corner of my reloading closet ever since. Until now ......

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    Excellent fit, this time.

    In spite of the 40 degree temps and shifting winds, I took the Scout to the range this morning for a workout.

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    I zeroed the Scout's Weaver V-16 scope (Warne rings) at 50 yards using Wolf Match Target. I was rewarded with this nice five shot group:

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    All I have done to the rifle is thoroughly clean it and adjust the trigger spring tension to its lightest setting. A Lyman trigger pull gauge read 4 lbs 5 ozs before and 3 lbs 5 ozs after.

    I decided to load up my entire bag of five shot CZ magazines and shoot eight groups. Here are those groups:

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    I wasn't sure if my hold was shifting POI or the quartering-in winds were playing with the results.

    The slip on pad makes a nice stop gap. I don't want to permanently alter the length of pull. My grandchild is only one year old, but I hope to teach her to shoot some day just as I did for her mother and her aunt years ago.
     
  2. greyling22

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    try the yodave trigger kit. it dropped my cz down to about 12oz. :)
     
  3. d2wing

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    Nice.
     
  4. CB900F

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    Danny;

    I think you got a "win" on the wood lottery too.

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    Our LGS has one in the rack. Sure would be fun, and I should have picked up the 'Farmer' when I had the chance.
     
  6. ECVMatt

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    I love my Scout. It is one of the handiest .22LR's I own. Congratulations!
     
  7. Danny Creasy

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    Thanks for the kind comments.

    By the way, I finished up at the range today with a couple of magazines offhand at 50 yards. After a couple of shots getting a feel for the three and a half pound trigger, I was surprised how well we were doing. I found that I could wrap my left pointer and index fingers around the forend tip and pull the relatively light Scout back into my shoulder for a solid hold. I was hitting fragments of clay pigeons on the berm more often than not.
     
  8. Danny Creasy

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    Mounted a more modest scope on the Scout and range tested it a couple of weeks ago - Weaver RV-7 (2.5-7X28mm):

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    Best 50 yard five shot group of the day was the .35 incher. The average of six five shot groups was .64".

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    It was well above 50 degrees with shifting 4 to 6 mile an hour winds. The ammo was Wolf MT. I dialed the scope to 7 power for the test. These USBR bulls were tough aiming points at 7 power - I just "quartered the pie".

    Now that she is zeroed and tested. I have pulled the rubber boot. Ready for the kids whenever they are.
     
  9. CB900F

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    Danny;

    And that's supposed to be the raison d'etre for the schnable type forend; to facilitate wrapping fingers around it & stabilizing the gun.

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  10. Danny Creasy

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    Yes, Jim Watson explained the proper employment of the schnable forend to me in the past. This little Scout lacked the schnable tip, but I found it interesting how the former owners addition of a far-forward swivel stud (for CMP Sporter 3P use - they didn't bother with a rear stud) made for an even better finger hook. :)
     
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    If you happen to have a spare 452 American stock laying around the Scout will fit into it very nicely.:)

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  12. chicharrones

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    A much better scope choice for that little mighty mite. :cool:

     
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    Nice shooting, nice gun.
    I love my Scout. Super accurate. It has to be the best bang for the buck in the rimfire world.
     
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    I have a 452 varmint with the weaver v-16. Shoots about the same with fiocci ammo. You got a nice bit of wood too. I love these CZ rifles and just picked up a 455 FS in 22 mag, a caliber I always liked. Shame I cant find a box to save my life. Might just order a 17 HMR barrel as I seem to see that on the shelf quite often.
     
  15. 12many

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    Take that thing off. Yuck. Like putting masking tape over the centerfold pic.
     
  16. Danny Creasy

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    Geez, I just wanted to make a youth length rifle more shootable for me while I sighted it in and field tested it. Tough crowd! It slips on - it slips off. Perfect solution.
     
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    Danny, its yours, do what you want to with it. I think it looks great plus its very functional.
     
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    That is one good looking rifle. Now I want one.
     
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    Well, maybe a little bit. The slip-on makes it look like you're recoil averse to .22 LR.

    I have a Scout. The stock is a little short, but the little ones love it. The proper accessory to address the stock is a CZ 452 Trainer.
     
  20. Danny Creasy

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    And, it's really not that hard for an adult to adapt his or her form to achieve good results with the rifle, as is. I do seem to read about a lot of shooters that intend the rifle for adult use and leave the rifle in box stock form. The advantage? It's the compactness of the overall rifle relative to use as a survival, packing, or vehicle rifle. I own an AR-7, and this Scout, for about a foot more length (which could be critical), beats the heck out of the plastic rifle (which does not float by the way - it just sinks slowly ;) ) as a shooter.

    Here is a link to an AR-7 thread of mine:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=767468
     
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    Waste of Simple

    With the CZ Scout, you need to keep it simple.

    The irons on this diminutive .22 are fine as is, but if you feel you have to scope it, then stick with a low mounted, low powered scope, ...

    ... like the basic 1x-3x Weaver on mine (on the right in the pic). Otherwise, you'll fugly-up the rifle. :rolleyes:

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    Save the larger, weightier and higher-magnification scopes for the full-size CZ rimfires, like the (now discontinued) 453 American, as so:

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    Even my CZ 452 Ultra Lux "Super Exclusive," with its hyper-accurate 28.6" tube, wears a low profile Leupy 1.5x-5.5x.

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  23. Danny Creasy

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    It's just a little Weaver RV-7 2.5-7X28mm Rimfire Classic. Quite the petite little optic, and I have finally settled on a set of Warne 7.3/22 rings. After 15 years of experience with CZ rimfires (own eight of them), I have found that it is the ocular not the objective that is the deal breaker. The CZ's high bolt handle lift is what negates the use of low or medium rings with most scopes.

    I do agree that all the hogsback stocked models are best employed with the fine tangent open sights as that is what the rifles are stocked for. A scope is always awkward at best on these hogsback models. Not the case with one of the slick barrel models like your CZ 452 Varmint - nice high comb on that one.

    "Fugly" – Perhaps you were referring to the big V-16 I had on the rifle for initial accuracy testing in the OP.
     
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    Deleted double post.
     
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    I do not particularly enjoy shooting the hogback guns with scopes unless the scope is mounted low, but fortunately it's not difficult to drop the scope down on a hogback stock so that the cheek weld is just as good as most typical American or Varmint setups. You just have to select a scope with a small-enough ocular and pay attention to ring selection.

    My scoped hogbacks (Full Stock and two Luxes) fit me very nicely and I never wish for a lower scope or higher comb when shooting them.

    Here's a comparison of the Full Stock and one of the Americans.

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    Here's the hogback WMR Lux with a 42-mm objective Sightron. I love shooting this scoped setup. It fits me just as naturally as the straight-stocked American above.
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