cz-82 disappointment

[snakeman]

I just got done shooting my cz-82 I picked up yesterday. I have to say I'm disappointed. So here's the list:

Pros:
The functioned exceedingly well.
The trigger pull is awesome in both sa and da.
The gun is light handy, easily concealed and holds 12 rounds.

Cons:
This thing is so poor in the accuracy department you will probably need all 12 rounds . I mean seriously my pt92af made this thing look like a joke.
Also, the recoil is terrible considering the capabilities of the round. It was stinging my hand. That shouldn't happen, I'm used to a 158 gr load in a 4" 357 .

I paid $310 for mine in excellent condition with a great holster, an extra mag, and a box of fiocchi ammo.

Ok my groups at 10 yards were anywhere from 2"-4" :banghead:

Groups with my 1973 single six at 10 yards are 1" or less, the same can be said for my buckmark and my pt92af when I had it. It has polygonal rifling, if you call that rifling. Anywho here's some pics of the gun. I didn't post pics of the groups because, well for lack of better words, they sucked.

 

[nonamehavei]

New springs will probably help with the recoil, as far as accuracy, I am suprised, you are the first person I have ever heard of with issues from a cz82 with accuracy. What type of ammo were you using? Are you sure this isn't one of the rebarreled ones?

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[ChefJeff1]

I'm not too familar with polygonal rifling but that thing looks smooth. It looks well used. Maybe the barrel is used up.

 

[WardenWolf]

You're the only one I've seen complain about accuracy in ANY of the 9x18mm pistols. They're all known to be exceptionally accurate. That said, I think your problem is ammo. If you use low-grade ammo, any gun will be inaccurate. Fiocchi isn't exactly known for high-quality ammo, in any caliber. And Blazer 9x18 ammo shot very poorly in my Makarov. Try Sellier & Bellot or Silver Bear. For carry, Hornady makes some excellent 9x18 hollowpoints.

Get a new recoil spring from Wolff (http://www.gunsprings.com). That will make it much more pleasant to shoot. You can also get some excellent wood grips from Marschall Grips (http://www.marschalgrips.com).

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

The rifling of the CZ 82 isn't conventional.

Conventional --------------------------------------CZ 82


I always hear about it being accurate and are you sure that the recoil wasn't throwing you off? They kick hard because they are blow back. I can handle a subcompact 9mm easily but a .380 blow back feels uncomfortable.

 

[Geneseo1911]

The barrel is supposed to look that way. It is VERY hard to see any rifling at all.

I'll admit that I was a little disappointed in my 82 as well. I've only put about 150 rounds through it though, and I'm using crappy Barnaul ammo, so it's not necessarily the gun's fault. I agree that it was more snappy than I expected for such a wimpy round in a relatively big (compared to my PF9 for example) gun.

Still hard to beat for the money. I need to get a recoil spring for mine, but CZ-USA was out last time I called.

Hopefully some different ammo or just getting used to the new gun will improve your luck with yours.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Recoil, well lets just say that people have different ideas of recoil
I find the CZ to be VERY soft and controllable, and as if not more accurate than me with crappy brown bear.
but hey, somebody will be willing to buy the 200 dollar gun off of you.

 

[snakeman]

I'm not done with it yet! The rifling is supposed to look smooth as it is unconventional. I plan to try a grip sleeve and some silver bear and hornady ammo as well. I'll tinker with a gun before I give up on it. Just thought yall would like to hear what I have to say about it. One thing I love about the high road is everyone is so darn supportive. Once I run some other ammo through it I'll post the results. This is my first true range report. I'm used to handguns that shoot groups better than this at 30 yards so consider me biased if you will. I don't regret buying it because now I know what to expect. BTW the gun was made in 87' same year I was born.

 

[harmon rabb]

try some higher quality ammo and see what results you get. 9x18 pistols, with their fixed barrels, are usually known as being very accurate.

 

[armoredman]

Sorry about that - I shot a CZ-83 in .380 years ago, and that puppy shot like a laser, but it was new commercial manufacture as opposed to the military issue CZ-82.

 

[Taroman]

Stick with it, you will get there. Can't see any rifling in mine, either.
I did add a heavier spring (Wolff) which calmed it down a bit.
Shoots great to POA with everything from Commie Brown Bear to the XTP:

 

[rellascout]

I paid $310 for mine in excellent condition with a great holster, an extra mag, and a box of fiocchi ammo.

Man that sucks. I hate to add insult to injury but CZ 82s are sub $200 guns. Are you 100% sure that the gun has poly rifling? Some have had their barrels replaced which if they did not do a good job could be the issue.

 

[rferizano]

I just got done shooting my cz-82 I picked up yesterday. I have to say I'm disappointed. So here's the list:

Pros:
The functioned exceedingly well.
The trigger pull is awesome in both sa and da.
The gun is light handy, easily concealed and holds 12 rounds.

Cons:
This thing is so poor in the accuracy department you will probably need all 12 rounds . I mean seriously my pt92af made this thing look like a joke.
Also, the recoil is terrible considering the capabilities of the round. It was stinging my hand. That shouldn't happen, I'm used to a 158 gr load in a 4" 357 .

I paid $310 for mine in excellent condition with a great holster, an extra mag, and a box of fiocchi ammo.

Ok my groups at 10 yards were anywhere from 2"-4" :banghead:

Groups with my 1973 single six at 10 yards are 1" or less, the same can be said for my buckmark and my pt92af when I had it. It has polygonal rifling, if you call that rifling. Anywho here's some pics of the gun. I didn't post pics of the groups because, well for lack of better words, they sucked.

Just what did you expect from a fixed barrel pistol in 9x18 Mak that is almost as hot as a 9x19. ALL fixed barrel guns are going to produce strong recoil. That just physics man.

 

[mgmorden]

Fiocchi isn't exactly known for high-quality ammo, in any caliber.

That's a new one on me. Fiocchi to my knowledge has always been regarded as one of the upper tier European makers. Not quite Norma or Lapua, but better than Prvi Partizan or S&B and MUCH better than Silver Bear or the Russian stuff.

Also, unless you're going to a reduced power spring - a new spring will only up the recoil. Thinking that an increased power spring will reduce recoil is one of those "common sense tricks" where the obvious solution (that increasing recoil spring weight will reduce recoil) isn't correct.

Have the gun been fired from a rest? One thing I've learned is that often with a new gun that you're not familiar with accuracy won't be as good as others you've had for a while just due to you being less familiar with that one. Try it from a rest, and try it with some different ammo.

 

[snakeman]

yeah it's poly rifling just has some powder buildup in there now

 

[rellascout]

That's a new one on me. Fiocchi to my knowledge has always been regarded as one of the upper tier European makers. Not quite Norma or Lapua, but better than Prvi Partizan or S&B and MUCH better than Silver Bear or the Russian stuff.

+1 nothing wrong with Fiocchi.

 

[rellascout]

Did anyone else shoot it?

 

[Geneseo1911]

Man that sucks. I hate to add insult to injury but CZ 82s are sub $200 guns.

I wasn't gonna say anything, but I thought $310 was a bit high as well. However, it looks like the slide might be refinished, and if a guy doesn't have a C&R, you have to add $60 shipping + transfer on top of that $200. Mags run about $25, so by the time you add a box of ammo, it's not that far off.

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

Merged duplicate threads.

 

[snakeman]

Yeah the slide is refinished, the spare mag is new, and I don't have a c&r. No one else shot the gun, just me, I still have a few rounds left and I'll give it good run through. I know I can't base an accuracy test off of just one type of ammo so I'll try a couple different brands. The fiocchi stuff is the only ammo I could get here. Also, I like fiocchi 223 and 308 ammo and have had excellent luck with it so I figured why not give this stuff 50 shots to prove its mettle.

 

[rellascout]

Yeah the slide is refinished, the spare mag is new, and I don't have a c&r. No one else shot the gun, just me, I still have a few rounds left and I'll give it good run through. I know I can't base an accuracy test off of just one type of ammo so I'll try a couple different brands. The fiocchi stuff is the only ammo I could get here. Also, I like fiocchi 223 and 308 ammo and have had excellent luck with it so I figured why not give this stuff 50 shots to prove its mettle.

I would try some different ammo and have someone else shoot it. Sometimes it is just a bad day at the range or a bad box of ammo. I shoot a lot of Fiocchi and have found it to be of high quality. Better than a lot of Mak ammo.

Don't give up on her yet. Keep us posted.

 

[snakeman]

Will do. I will let my fiance shoot it. She's better with auto's than me.

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

I had an 83 - the .380acp version sort of wish I had kept. nothing wrong with it's accuracy but it was cut rifleing.
still though I think you should work at it a while longer.

 

[Onward Allusion]

snakeman
<SNIP>Ok my groups at 10 yards were anywhere from 2"-4"

Groups with my 1973 single six at 10 yards are 1" or less, the same can be said for my buckmark and my pt92af when I had it. It has polygonal rifling, if you call that rifling. Anywho here's some pics of the gun. I didn't post pics of the groups because, well for lack of better words, they sucked.

While 2" to 4" is on the looser side of groups at 10 yards, it's not horrible for this gun. Also, comparing a Single Six & a Buckmark to a CZ82 is apples to oranges. Even comparing it to a PT92 is apples & oranges - 5" barrel with 3.8" barrel - big difference in sight radius and recoil all around.

I would recommend a swap to a heavier recoil spring and revisiting. Don't expect sub 1" groups at 10 yards with it, however. The gun is fully capable of doing it in a ransom rest but that's true with most guns at that range.

 

[armarsh]

I own several. They all shoot great.



It does sound like you have a bad recoil spring which is allowing the slide to hit the frame too hard. These guns weigh quite a bit for the cartridge, so there is no reason to feel a lot of recoil.