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CZ or Savage

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by kyhunter, Mar 17, 2013.

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  1. kyhunter

    kyhunter Member

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    I am in the market for a new rimfire. Id look everyones views for and against these two options... Im looking for .22 magnum especially. Im also open to caliber debates (as long as its rimfire) but keep it clean to each his own. Ive owned .17 savages and it didnt really wow me.

    The gun needs to be accurate enough for fairly long 50-100 yard varmint shots.
     
  2. ECVMatt

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    Not to throw another dog in the fight, but I have a couple of Ruger 77/22 Mags and they are great! They are super accurate, I love the magazine, I like how the safety locks the bolt closed, and they feel like real adult sized rifles.

    I also have a CZ 452 and it is a very nice rifle. It tends to have more sharp edges, but shoots great. I have limited experience with Savages, but the one I had the most with failed to extract quite regularly. I know the extractor is an easy part to replace and Savage stands behind their rifles, but it irked me that it came that way. Of the two you are specifically looking at, I would go with the CZ.
     
  3. ford8nr

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    I have a CZ452 Varmit in 22lr and love it. It's my steel siloutte gun out to 100m offhand. Off a bag I can clink (22lr version of CLANK) a 12" plate at 242yds 9 out of 10 shots.
     
  4. ford8nr

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    Ohhh...Ruger 77/22M that's dirty pool throwing that one in. I LOVE the 77/22's.
     
  5. 303tom

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    Savage, buy America...................
     
  6. redneck2

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    My S-I-L has a target model Savage with the Accu-Trigger and I have a 453 CZ with the single set trigger. Either would suit me for accuracy and function. Last time out I shot .2's at 50 yards with the CZ loaded with Wolf Match.

    I had a 77/22 in .22 Hornet. It went away. Gonna replace it with a CZ some time this summer.
     
  7. kyhunter

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    the rugers are a bit too pricey for something that might get beat up. but thanks for the option in case i decide to go up a little. and 303 thats a good point american is always a plus
     
  8. chaser_2332

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    cz hands down for rimfire
     
  9. viking499

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    I am with chaser. CZ. The new 455's offer the option of barrel swapping so you could have your WMR, HMR or 22 to see what you like or to experiment with. They are also offering a drop in single set trigger to go in the 455's which will allow it to resemble the 453's sst.

    That all said, I do not have a 455, but plan to in the future when I find the right one sitting on a shelf. But, I do have a handful of 452's and love every one. And I would buy another handful if I had the funds to.
     
  10. toivo

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    Savages are reasonably-priced and they work. CZs are really, really nice and will make you go :D.
     
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    If I were in the market for a bolt action rimfire, CZ would definitely be my first choice. A friend of mine has a CZ Model 452 American and besides its great looks it's also an extremely accurate rifle.
     
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    +1 CZ452 Varmint. No regrets.
     
  13. 22-rimfire

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    If I could find a CZ bolt, I'd probably get that. Otherwise, I would go for a Savage with the Accu-trigger. Savages shoot very well typically.
     
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    My latest rimfire purchase was a CZ 455. I'm not disappointed.
     
  15. kyhunter

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    okay so if i do go for a CZ. What about the FS versions I like the looks of the full mannlicher stock but how does that go as far as barrel harmonics, free floating, etc. Does it harm accuracy. The only thing I have floated is an '06. I know nothing of floating being done about rimfires since Ive only plinked or raccoon hunted with the things.
     
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    I haven't seen any indication that the FS models suffer from accuracy problems. RimfireCentral has a CZ specific forum. It is great just to browse that forum and read the threads. That alone will answer just about any question you can come up with.
     
  17. kyhunter

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    juk i appreciate it.. im off to explore
     
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    Between the two I would definitely go with the cz 455, in fact I did. I have had had nothing but great accuracy from all 3 barrels (17 hmr, 22 lr and 22 mag). I had the lr barrel cut down and threaded for a can, and now the ammo it likes best is blaser... Go figure. The switch barrel aspect was important to me, but even if it wasn't, I would still have chosen the cz, the execution and finish are a notch higher than the savage, with similar accuracy.
     
  19. kyhunter

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    gt scotty which of your three barrels would you think better for varmints? Ive never touched a .22 mag but i have several .17's. The .17 worked great for varmints but if i wanted to eat a rabbit or something it was not really purposeful. How does a .22 mag fair in that aspect if you have any experience. The .17's just kind of detonate. My understanding is the .22 mags shouldnt do that, similar to the .22LR just faster and flatter?
     
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    I shoot a lot of jackrabbits with the .22 Mag and the .17 HMR. The .22 mag works great, but you have to choose your bullet. My buddy uses the 35 VMax and it is as explosive as my .17HMR. I use 40 grn. SP's and they put them down, but don't blow them up. I really like the .22 Mag for bigger varmints. It works really well on coons, possums, and the likes.
     
  21. kyhunter

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    Matt thats what I was asking more or less. Looks like .22 mag it is :cool:
    I know from my experiences at least I have never seen a .17 keep together and pass through. But that really isnt what theyre designed to do I suppose:confused:
     
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    I've tried v- max bullets in two .22 magnums...horrible accuracy
     
  23. Jackal

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    I have a Savage .22LR with Accutrigger and wood stock. Its very accurate, I can take 9mm cases at 50 yards with open sights. However, I must say that it is quite a turd. Quality is low, action is rough, fails to eject occasionally. It also fails to feed quite often and I have tried 8 different mags and about 10 different types of ammo. Overall, the Savage will likely be as accurate as the CZ, but the CZ will likely run smoother.
     
  24. SlimeDog

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    I have both a CZ452 and a Savage Mark II. While both rifles are accurate (the CZ gets the nod by a smidgen), I feel that the CZ is superior in every other way - appearance, materials, fit and finish, and handling characteristics. Just my 2 cents.
     
  25. Gtscotty

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    Kyhunter,

    If you are just looking to shoot non-food varmints, I think I would use the 17 hmr barrel. Obviously either would work, I just really enjoy shooting the hmr (I think of it like a tiny center fire). That said the 22 mag would probably be better for anything you intend to eat and for larger varmints such as coyotes and small pigs. My cz actually does best with heavy 17 hmr bullets, and light 22 mag bullets. Pretty much any 17 load with an xtp or game point 20 gr bullet will shoot moa or better on a very still day, a little wind though and things go haywire. While the xtp is less explosive than the vmax, it only took one squirrel hunting trip for me to revert back to 22 lr for squirrel duty.
     
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