CZ Retro, Hammer bite, Trigger slap?

[dxkj21]

I saw this mentioned in past threads and I'm trying to figure out what it exactly means....

Also any CZ 75B Retro owners that want to chime in on their experences = +



Edit: Oh wait!! I think I got it, hammer bite is when hammer comes back after a shot and hits/pinches the hand? That makes sense... now to figure out trigger slap hehe.. I wonder if that is as simple as the trigger coming back out hard after a shot and hitting your finger...

 

[yayarx7]

I have the CZ75B and suffer neither of these maladies. I have never heard of trigger slap in a handgun. In some of the more primitive autoloader rifles yes, handguns no. I am looking at my CZ right now trying to figure out how big your paw has to be to suffer from hammer bite? Maybe if you had big ole hands like mine AND were much ...plumper you could get a bit of flesh over the beavertail and under that hammer. Then again the retro hammer is shaped different and may be easier to get bit.

 

[nonquixote]

The newer 75Bs have the commander style loop spur hammer for just this reason. I don't have a pre B 75 but I do have an AT84S clone of one and had to shorten the hammer spur about a quarter inch because of hammer bite.

My take on trigger slap is that on lighter pistols with higher recoil such as some polymer framed .40s that the pistol can recoil sharply enough that your trigger finger actually comes off the trigger, and as the pistol comes forward after recoil the trigger smacks your finger with enough force so that after time it becomes sore.

Nonq

 

[1911 TERRY]

Hammer bite is not always a pinching of the skin, but it can occur if you have a high grip on the pistol. As the slide comes back in recoil the hammer can poke the flesh between your thumb and index finger. If there are any sharp edges on the hammer it can break the skin after repeated firing. It used to start with me after about 50 rounds. I've since modified my grip slightly. I have never experienced trigger slap.

 

[dxkj21]

The retro has the big spurr hammer instead of the loop so it extends much further than the standard 75b

 

[atblis]

trigger and hammer bite

Just about anything with a Spur hammer bites the crap out of me (I have unusually large hands).
CZ75 does
AT84s does
HiPower does



Hammer bite will be on your hand, above the web of your thumb and pointer finger.

Trigger bite will be on your trigger finger pad, and or around the joint.

If you have a hammer bite issue, you have a few options.
Live with it (wear gloves while shooting)
Bob the hammer
Get a new hammer
Get rid of the gun
Change your grip (this doesn't work for me)

If you have a trigger bite issue you can
Live with it (gloves may help).
Get a different trigger.
Smooth the trigger up a little (knock off the sharp edges).
Change the way you pull the trigger. If you wrap your finger around the trigger, they usually bite worse. Use the middle of the pad to pull the trigger.

 

[dxkj21]

If I have problems with it, not sure what i will do, I have large hands but not beefy... guess I will find out

Wonder what a hammer replace would cost

 

[chris in va]

Is there some unusual reason why you want a retro over the B version?

 

[dxkj21]

Cheaper

 

[mons meg]

I don't get hammer bite, but if I load even NATO 9mm strngth ammo in my 75B, I get "beavertail nip" after a hundred rounds or so. Maybe Dr. Scholl's has a moleskin product for that part of the hand?

 

[Kestrel]

The main reason I would like the retro model is the rounded trigger guard. I don't like squared trigger guards. (I do think the spur hammer looks good, too, though.)

 

[briang2ad]

Because...

Is there some unusual reason why you want a retro over the B version?

Square trigger guards are like polyester pants - they are useless and out of style.

 

[Gun Wielding Maniac]

I used to have a CZ-75 classic, not a retro but very similiar. I never had a problem with either trigger or hammer bite. I sold the gun because my B had a better trigger and the safety didnt serrate my fingers after a long course of fire Also, the original CZ-75 was particular about which type of mags fit.

 

[atblis]

Hammers

Bobbing/Trimming the hammer isn't difficult.

A new hammer would be on the order of ~35-50 bucks
you could get a competition hammer from Ghostholster.com

I have an 86 CZ75 that doesn't seem to be picky about mags at all. It uses the new 16rnd mags no problem. It also came with 8 original mags so...

 

[briang2ad]

mags and hammers

My hands are med-large, and not skinny. I get plenty of hammer bite with a 1911. I do NOT with a 75 PreB with a spur hammer.

New CZ factory mags will fit a PreB 75 (classic - not B - no firing pin safety). but, they must be made in CZ Rep. - CZ mags made by Mec-Gar and marked "Mec-Gar" will not generally fit. This is a slight disadvantage,

but ROUND trigger guards are just way cool, and square ones are actually counterproductive. They look bad, they may lure newbies into using the front for a finger hold - bad! They also present another sharp surface to snag or cut you. Now, they have one advantage - you can use them to gouge an opponent - but I'd rather use a round.

 

[dxkj21]

If you wrap both hands around the gun securely wouldnt the front flat part be good for your second hand to grab onto? (assuming you grab in a way that you wont slip and pull the trigger)

 

[boing]

If you shoot that way, then yes, and that's why those types of trigger guards exist.

But the vast majority of two handed shooters don't put their weak hand index finger on the trigger guard, they wrap it around the strong hand with the rest of the fingers.

Weak hand finger on the trigger guard is kind of like the "cup and saucer" hold of days gone by, where the weak hand supports the gun from under the magwell: works for some, but it's become a passé technique.

Plus some people think it's ugly.