CZ... so many choices...

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Don't know the answer to the SP-01 / IDPA questions. Folks claimed that the CZ-97B was illegal, too, but it isn't. (IDPA disallows full-length dustcovers... on some guns.)

Keep in mind, if you find that the SP-01 is OK, that there are two versions -- one with the decocker and one with the safety. When you order, you must specify.
 
If you like the decocker (I do), then consider the P-01. Mine is actually more accurate than my CZ 75B and has less perceived recoil. Perhaps it is due to the heavier dust cover 'nose' of the pistol, I don't know. A wonderful gun, and the 40S&W magazines for it hold 14 rounds of 9mm.
 
Actually, I really like the P-01 but had assumed the longer 75B would be more accurate. Good news. Maybe I really can get everything I want. My id rejoices.

Finally, no one has answered: will the large capacity magazines shown with the SP-01 fit the P-01? Foxmoor you imply the .40 S&W magazines will work in the 9mm P-01. Are the CZ magazines interchangeable to that degree?
 
Full-size mags will generally work in a smaller CZ if they're the same calibre. but CZ .40 mags typically WON'T retain a 9mm round. Some Witness mags, and the semi-crappy full-size Pro-Mags will.

I wouldn't buy a CZ (factory) .40 mag in hopes of using it in a 9mm CZ.

Pro-Mag for the CZ-75B Compact in .40 will work in the 9mm P-01, and will hold 13 or 14 rounds, depending on the follower.

SP-01 mags should work in the same caliber. Its really a juiced-up 75B.

The full-size mags, in a compact, will stick out about 1/2"+ but function fine. You can also get a special baseplate/filler that makes them look like part of the grip ($8.50 from CZ.) You can see them on a 40P.)


Avoid the larger mags for the IPSC guns; they fit in a different frame and are incompatible with the entry-level CZs.
 
The SP-01 tactical isn't legal for IDPA. Also, night sights can be had from the factory for some of the CZ's.
 
Here is a quote from Matthew Mink I extracted from cZforum:

"IDPA will maintain that the SP-01 is a modification of the CZ 75 design, so therefore the Full Length Dust Cover is a modification to the original CZ 75 design. I really wish their rulebook had better explanations, although it did get better this last go around. Anyway, that is their interpretation and I got that straight from IDPA HQ.

So that means the SP-01 must be SSP compliant before it can be shot in ESP. I can get it close, but not under 39oz.

CZ-USA Shooting Team"
 
Wonder why the P-01 isn't also illegal, if that's the case, as its a derivation of the 75B (or the 75B PCR), and it has a full-length dust cover, too. But, as far as I know, its legal.

Sometimes, IDPA seems to have its head in that warm, dark place.
 
Walt..

its all in the name..the SP01 carries the name CZ75b SP01, I guess IDPA feels that makes it a modified CZ75

the P01 carries its own designation..

kind of like why they allow bull barrels on 4" 1911 guns and not on the 5" guns..
 
Guess that simply means that CZ has to rename the gun and the problem will go away.

They're all variants of the CZ-75B. In fact, the P-01 is called the CZ-75D P-01 in Europe.

Like I said, IDPA sometimes seems to seek out that warm, dark spot.

(The Glock 34 seems to have the same sort of full-length [or almost full-length] dustcover, and its a variant of the 17. Wonder why it wasn't disallowed. It was clearly designed to compete in IDPA and IPSC.)
 
I know Matt and Angus have been working with CZ to make sure on the information on the guns are updated and correct on the websites for the sports..

like the SP01 actually holds 19 rounds....but the website stated 18..so in IPSC you cannot put in 19 even if a unaltered factory mag will hold 19..because the tech data says 18..

in IPSC the G34 is not legal..on in USPSA..

its tough to keep up with the shooting sports to see what is legal or not..as they have differing rules that sometimes don't make sense..
 
V35,

Don't rule out the CZ-75D PCR. Virtually the same gun as the P-01, but without the light rail. Its slimmer and eaiser to carry. My PCR is as accurate as my full size CZ-75B. Amazing.
 
My P-01 is as accurate as my 75BD. A month or so ago I loaded up some 124 gr Hornady HP XTP for defense. They are about 10 cents per bullet, so not something for the range regularly. They worked so well in the P-01 that it was shooting as well as or better than my Sig 226 Stainless Stock with regular range ammo. Didn't have the 75BD along that day to try with the Hornady. Didn't have the chrono along either, but with 6 gr of HS6 they were about as warm as factory WWB. The compact CZs can be quite accurate.
 
So many testimonials... I'm a believer. Sounds like it's hard to go wrong with any CZ.
 
The indoor range I frequent had what appeared to be every CZ made on the rental rack. I went through most of 'em and didn't find anything I didn't like.

I shot the P-01 best. This surprised me as I have rather large mitts. Smaller guns are a mystery to me: I like P239s but can't deal with Kahr P40s. The Rohrbach give me hives. The P-01 joined the P239 in "small guns I do well with but don't know why".

I have no rational explanation.

The various flavors of 75 were nice but nothing "clicked" like the P-01.
 
Liked the P-01, huh? That's because its not REALLY smaller. The slide is shorter, and the grip is a hair shorter (1/2"?), but the rest of the gun has the basic ergonomics remaining unchanged from the full-size gun. Its even the same, internally -- same parts, etc.
 
would just like to say that I picked up a PCR because I couldn't find a browning highpower but I now love it. It's accuracy is great, it looks neat, its light and easy to conceal. plus whenever you meet someone with it its like being in your very own club.... ok maybe not that far but all the other PCR owners I have talked to love their guns and congradulate me on my investment. 14 +1 capacity isn't bad for GOOD LOOKING compact. (sorry I'm sure bricks work well but I think they are ugly
 
Walt Sherrill said:
Liked the P-01, huh? That's because its not REALLY smaller.
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CZ 75 variants seems to come in two sizes: 3.8 inch and 4.7 inch barrel lengths. Aside from the mounting rail options and steel / alloy / polymer frames, I guess the internal mechanics are the same. Why mess with success, apparently.

It's good to know the CZ compact models have as good a reputation as the full size ones. Conventional wisdom suggests that if I wanted a good range gun, I'd be disappointed with a compact model. I've found no basis for that concern from what I've read here.

I've got my choices narrowed down to two, and I think I'll want both: the SP-01 for the range, and the PCR for carry. Both have serrated front and back straps, which I like, and both are available in a decocker model. I went to three gun shops looking for an SP-01, haven't found one yet though.

Of course I'll have to get a Kadet too :rolleyes:
 
and the winner is...

After weeks of hyper-over-analysis, I finally arrived at a decision... CZ-75 BD. :D

Fits my hand better than anything else, good balance, and all the features I wanted. The quality of construction (strictly from an appearance standpoint however) is impressive.

I visited all my local gun shops but none of them had an SP-01. Apparently there are just not enough of them around, and I finally couldn't convince myself the $150 +/- price difference would be justified anyway.

Although I started out thinking that price is not a primary consideration, I would be lying if I said it made no difference at all. I had also been considering a Sig 226 but when I realized I could have two CZs for the price of one Sig, that was enough for me. I really like the Sig, but would I like it twice as much? Hmmm.

Range report to follow... perhaps in a few weeks... :(

If it performs well, I'll likely be in the market for a PCR.
 
Pics of the first three rounds!

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Load is 115 gr Independence. That's a better grouping than I've been able to achieve in over 1500 rounds with my HK.

Whether it's the gun, the caliber, or the shooter, I'm a happy man!
 
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