CZ?

[j1979]

Im a new/recent handgun owner, this is actually my first post, I purchased a GLOCK 22, really like it by the way. 700 flawless rounds so far. Figured it was a good starter pistol as far as ease of use and simplicity. Anyways I have been reading about CZ pistols. Are these things as nice as all the reviews I've been reading about them say? Im possibly interested in either a P-01 or the P-06. Anyone have some experience with these two in particular. Thanks

 

[1 old 0311]

As nice? No! Better? HELL YES.

 

[j1979]

hmmm, might have to look into one. Is the P-06 as reliable as the P-01?

 

[SureThing]

Don't know yet. Sold my Glocks to buy CZ's but have actually never shot one. May be stupid I know, but I will keep you posted. I have 2 Cz's on they way.

 

[j1979]

Fill me in on what you think of them. Id be pretty hard pressed to get rid of my GLOCK, its my first handgun so I'll probably never sell it, and I shoot well with it. These CZ's really got me wondering though.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I have a PCR Compact and am very pleased with it.

 

[Cheesewhiz]

My opinion

My P-01s are probably the best pistols overall that I have ever owned.

 

[wizzegun]

A G19 was my 1st handgun. I hated it and sent it down the road. I now have a SP-01 and 7 other CZ handguns. They are as good as everybody says they are. But Glock is also very good. Now that I am a much better shooter I can appreciate a Glock....and maybe regret getting rid of mine. Try the CZ, hang onto your Glock and then make your decision. One man's pleasure is another man's misery.

 

[Juna]

I have yet to fire a pistol that I like better than my CZ 75, and I've fired a fair number of pistols. Close second would be a 1911 or an XD. Just my opinion.

Test out the ergonomics (hold one in the shop). Rent one. Shoot one. The grip angle is very different (and much better, IMO) than that of a Glock.

BTW, it's true what they say... once you get a CZ, they have a way of multiplying in your safe. Next thing you know, it has siblings.

 

[hags]

CZs are really nice firearms with a long, positive track record.
Yes, they can be made to be really nice.
However, if hell froze over or if there was a nuclear war, the only things to survive would be Twinkies, cockroaches and Glocks.

Do not sell your Glock if, 1, you like it and 2, you shoot it well.

You will regret it. :banghead:

The CZ 75B and it's derivatives should be on any serious shooter's "must own" short list.

 

[glocksrfugly]

CZ's are probably the most underrated handguns out there.

 

[BlindJustice]

Well, first off, welcome to the THR Forum.

have a couple of questions:
What is the frame size of a Glock 22?
My shooting buddy has a G19 - I've shot it, and he also showed me a
G17 at a Gun Show. SO I know a G17 is Full size frame
and the G19 is a Compact Frame both in 9MM LUger.
but your statement of a G22 tells me nothing in terms of
frame size and cartridge it is chambered for.

I have a CZ 75B in 9MM Luger. I got it as a economical
option for the range as I am a .45 ACP shooter, no not the Glock
21- 1911 5" Bbl. as well as a 625 S&W revolver. but back to the
CZ 75 and Variants. THe P01 and PCR are close as they are both
COmpact in size, 9MM Luger, but the P01 has the older style sights,
a light rail - the PCR no rail, - the newer Novak style three white dot
sights and a loaded chamber indicator.

I have 580 rds through my CZ 75B, 100% functionality, and it's a
very accurate handgun. I like the option of the thumb safety for a
cocked and locked option but a DA first shot. However, with the PCR
being a Decocker model I have no problem with this as it would be a CCW
and DA first shot would be my preferred carry. I have a blued model
and like the fit, finish - I am going to replace the plastic stock grips with
something in exotic hardwood. CZs are great
quality/reliability/accuracy at a great price as well as in profile
they closely resemble the venerable Browning Hi Power.

Randall

 

[Pilot]

I own guns from many manufacturers including HK, Sig, Ruger, and Beretta. I carry a CZ-75D PCR and own a 75B plus a Kadet Kit .22 conversion. They are among my favorites. Yes, they are that good.

 

[nambu1]

CZ's are decent guns for the money. P 01 or P 08 are expensive, but are both great guns. It would be your personnal choice.

 

[GigaBuist]

What is the frame size of a Glock 22?

The G22 is the same size as the G17 but chambered in .40S&W.

If you want a CZ I say you should get one. They're decent guns. I own a couple CZ's (75B and RAMI, we'll ignore the CZ-52 here because it's so different) and I own a couple Glocks (21 and 23). I tend to prefer the CZ's.

You'd be hard pressed to find a CZ owner that hates their pistol.

I would shy away from the RAMI in .40S&W though. It's been plagued by failures to feed. Mine lives up to this reputation. I've been told that a heavier recoil spring should fix this, and I really should get on that.

 

[belus]

I love my 75, but it's strictly a range/fun gun. Not because it hasn't been totally reliable, but because it's large and heavy and I'm a smaller guy.

 

[chris in va]

I haven't held another gun that fits my hand as well as the 75BD. Even better with the Kadet kit.

Just wish it was more reliable with range ammo.

 

[Zan]

Don't know yet. Sold my Glocks to buy CZ's but have actually never shot one. May be stupid I know, but I will keep you posted. I have 2 Cz's on they way.

I was right where you are when I got rid of my 19 & 26. I own a P-01 and a 75B now. I loved my Glocks. I know I'll get another one.. but I need to get a RAMI first The mechanics and aesthetics are what sold me on the CZ's. Because of that, I feel more comfortable and my groupings are more constant. I think you'll find a lot of guys here have done the same thing.

 

[BlindJustice]

Ok, finally got an answer....

FUll size frame:
G17 9MM Luger
G22 .40 S&W

what's the Bbl. Length?
as well as the BBL. length of a Compact G19 ?

CZ 75B Full size frame and a 4.7" Bbl. Len.
CZ 75 Compact Bariants = 3.9 Bbl. Len.

Glock with the Stryker fired action:
You get one punch at the primer - otherwise rack the slide
to re--pre-cock it

CZ 75 DA/SA - first shot is Double Action (DA) and if the
gun doesn't go bang you can pull the trigger again, THEN if it fails
rack the slide and chamber a new round. It doesn't happen often
but a good option if it ever does. Post first shot the hammer is all the
way bakc for a short trigger pull Single Action (SA)

All Steel CZs soak up recoil better than the Polymers - the design
also has a slide that has the rails inside the frame unlike most steel or
polymer semi-autos that have slides which wrap around over the sides
of the frame. THis design feature as well as the long rails have been
said to aid the inherent accuracy of the CZ platform.

The CZ 75 and variants have been pretty stable in production with the
exception of the firing pin block in the early '90s thus the B suffix. THe Glocks seem to have been changed a couple of times internally and are in their 3rd generation.... why? there must be reasons don't you think?

Randall

 

[cz100az]

If you can get your hands on a NIB / NOS CZ100 in .40, do it. Don't let the trigger stories scare you. I really enjoy mine. The 75 is also legendary and it'd be hard to pass that up if I was looking for a solid non-poly CZ.

 

[TimboKhan]

I don't know exactly what you meant by "nice reviews", but if you search THR, you will find very little negative feedback on CZ. I don't typically let internet opinions color my views towards a particular handgun all that much, but when it is as overwhelmingly positive as what the CZ has gotten, it has some weight. Of course, any manufacturer of any handgun will occasionally turn out a lemon, so there are some bad reviews. On the balance though, they seem to more than hold their own in terms of popularity and overall shooter satisfaction.

 

[DWARREN123]

I went the other way, got rid of the CZ's and purchased Glocks. It depends on what you like. CZ are good handguns but in 40 S&W I believe the Glocks are better.

 

[Rmac58]

My P-06 is quite accurate. My quibble is, it's too large (and it's a compact 75) for CC. That and because it has an aluminum frame, with a full magazine, it's grip heavy. This is something to consider as I'm always aware of it when I OC that it could fall out of my paddle holster.
I handled a Baby Eagle at the store yesterday, heavier, felt better. Both are .40 S&W.

 

[burningsquirrels]

nothing wrong with CZ. get one.

but seriously, ultimately it comes down to your preferences. the gun itself is excellent. it has a tighter and fully supported chamber and full length frame rails for better accuracy, hammer forged barrel that can easily do 50,000 rounds, all steel frame that soaks up recoil, plenty of aftermarket parts, and come in a variety of flavors from compact to full size to competition models to suit your needs.

 

[FEG]

hmmm, might have to look into one. Is the P-06 as reliable as the P-01?

FYI, no one has addressed this yet, because so few P-06s are in the country. There really isn't an objective basis for a conclusion. Thought I'd mention it in case you thought people were just blowing that part off.